HALL of Bristol, Denton & Stockport (c1814-1916) & New Zealand (1879-present)
HALL of Bristol, Denton & Stockport (c1814-1916) & New Zealand (1879-present)
formerly http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kitwithers/hall/hall.html
Compiled by Kit Withers, whatsapp +64223685905, kit.withers@gmail.com
PRIVACY ISSUES
The primary purpose of these family trees is to preserve the history
of the families and to enable contact between members. So I include
living members and a method of contact if I can. If for any reason you
would like your contact details excluded please let me know.
CONTENTS
1. Numbering systems used
2. HALL of BRISTOL, DENTON, Stockport & NZ
2.1 Who are these people?
3. Acknowledgements & Sources
4. Surnames and their first appearance
5. Place names and their appearance
6. HALL clues and other HALL searchers
7. The ASKEW tree - an excerpt
8. The BRAMBLEY tree - an excerpt
9. Our COOKE family of Bawtry,Yorkshire re wife of 0 at 2.
10. LONGWORTH clues
11. The TRAYES tree - an excerpt
14. Some links for Yorkshire and England
including more on Upperthorpe and Walkely:
14.1 genealogy, 14.2 Sheffield
14.3 Lancashire 164, 14.4 maps
14.5 Bristol & Gloucester
15. NZ passenger Lists
16. Abbreviations
17. KINDER clues
1. THE NUMBERING SYSTEMS USED
(i) The ID number at the start of the line indicates his order of descent from
the initial couple "0 0-George HALL" and "sp-Betsy COOKE".
(The "sp-" is for spouse.)
For example their 3rd child is given ID number "3":
3 1-Henry HALL (1851) who married sp-Laura Elizabeth RATHBONE (1857).
The 7th child of "3" Henry and spouse Laura is given ID "37":
37 2-Vera Elizabeth Rathbone HALL (1897-1971)
and so on.
(ii) The generation number precedes the name.
For example the "2-" in 37 2-Vera Elizabeth Rathbone HALL
indicates she is in the 3rd generation, counting the initial couple
"0-George HALL" and "sp-Betsy COOKE" as the 1st generation.
So to see who her siblings are one can either scan for adjacent "1-"
or scan for 11, 12, .... (In this case the siblings stop at 18. )
(iii) To make this descendancy chart look like a conventional family tree,
you need to put all the pages of the tree "2" together as one vertical sheet,
then turn it on its side with the left margin at the top. Now draw horizontal
lines between all siblings. The top line will join all the 2-.
The next line will join all the 2- but be broken so as not to cover any 2-.
So it is in 2 parts: the first is for 31 (one child so the horizontal line is
just a point), & the second joins 41, 42, ...,48.
The 3rd line joins all the 4- and breaks whenever a 2- or 3- occurs.
The 4th line joins all the 5- and breaks whenever a 2- or 3- or 4- occurs.
And so on.
(iv) The children 2- of Henry and Laura Hall have all passed away now.
The grandchildren of Henry & Laura Hall, marked 4--are cousins
(or siblings) to each other. Similarly if you are marked 5- (that is
5th generation from the initial couple) then you are a second cousin
(or closer) to the other 5-. If you are marked 6- then you are a
third cousin (or closer) to the other 6-. We now have 7 generations.
2. HALL OF BRISTOL (GLOUCESTER), DENTON (LANCASHIRE), STOCKPORT & NZ (c1814-present)
SUMMARY
0 George HALL b 1819 Bristol bur 1888 Christchurch, Denton
m Betsy COOKE bp 1823 Bawtry, Yorkshire bur 1891 Denton
1 Betsy HALL b 1847 Warwick, Warwickshire
2 Emma HALL b 3.4.1850 Heaviley, Stockport, Chester
3 Henry HALL b 1851 Denton,Lancs. d 1931 Auckland
m 1877 Laura RATHBONE 1857 Sheffield-1918 Auckland
31 Laura HALL (1878/9-1953) m James W ASKEW
311 Ian ASKEW 1914-83 m1 Huria MILLER, m2 Eileen FOOTE
32 Sylvia HALL (1880-1952) m James FARRAR
321 Marjorie FARRAR 1907-1964 m Herbert Norman BREGMEN
322 Ethel FARRAR 1909-1985 m "Billy" Hoskin TRAYES
323 Dorothy FARRAR 1914 m A Rowan A CARMICHAEL
33 Florence HALL (1882-1972) m1 George BRAMBLEY
331 Raymond "Buster" BRAMBLEY 1911-1980 m2 Audrey PRESTON
332 "Betty" Jean E BRAMBLEY 1914-2006 m Stuart REID
[33 Florence HALL (1882-1972)]
m2 "Dooley" Frederick WILSON
34 Eveline HALL (1883-1940) m Ernest TRAYES
341 Peggy (Elizabeth) TRAYES 1916 m Roy WALKER
342 Victor William Hall TRAYES 1920-2008 m Rae CADNESS
35 Harry Frederick HALL (1888-1917 France)
36 Reginald HALL (1896-1996) m Meryl MCLEOD
361 June HALL 1923 m Dick MCCARTHY
362 "Alex" McLeod HALL 1924-2006 m "Dot" LEATHWICK
363 Laura Mary Sheila HALL 1928-1997 m Peter W FRANCIS
37 Vera HALL (1897-1970) m Rex RUSSELL
371 Laurette RUSSELL 1918-2010 m Wynn WITHERS ** My parents.
38 Leslie HALL (1898-Australia) m Mauva
381 Geoffrey Leslie HALL 1945 m Charmaine Anne CLARKE
4 Sarah Ann HALL c1856 Stockport m John LONGWORTH
5 William HALL b 1860 Stockport, Cheshire
6 Jack HALL (c1866 Denton,Lancs)
m Sarah Louisa A MERCHANT b 1869 Birmingham
DETAILS
0 0-George HALL b 1814 Bristol, Gloucestershire (1871 census),
or in 1820 (1851-61 censuses) or 1821 (1881 census). "In affectionate memory
of George HALL departed 4.10.1888 (aged) 69 & interred at Christchurch, Denton.
Manchester Rd, Denton 6.10.1888" - bereavement card with George & Betsy's photo
on p1 of photo album of Henry HALL [3] held by Geoff HALL [381]. This puts his
b year as 1819.
1847 daughter Betsy [1] b at Warwick -see 1851 census under wife.
1850 daughter Emma [2] b at Heaviley, Stockport, Cheshire.
1851 at 4 Wellington Road South, Stockport - see wife; son Henry [1] b.
1853 son Henry [3] b at 6 Rowcroft Place, Stockport
1856 daughter Sarah Ann [4] b at 6 Rowcroft Place, Stockport
1861 at 171 York St,Gorton with wife & chn Betsy 1, Henry 3, Sarah Ann 4, Wm 5.
c1866 son John James [5] b at Denton,Lancs
1871 census: hatter 57 so b1814 in Denton, Lancs. See his wife for full entry.
1877 marriage certificate of his son Henry [3] lists George as a hatter of
Upperthorpe. (Henry's death certificate gives George as a barrister!!)
There is an Upperthorpe near Scunthorpe in Lincolnshire. But this one is
almost surely
"UPPER-THORPE, hamlet in the parish of Sheffield </A><pre>
and the township of Nether-Hallam; 1 mile from Sheffield." (West Riding)
- according to http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/yrksdict/
"A Topographical Dictionary of Yorkshire" 1822, by Thomas LANGDALE,
(also available at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mwi/e-riding.html)
It is now a district of Sheffield near Walkeley. (One says it is
very near to a town named Harthill, SEE of Sheffield; another says it is W of
Sheffield.) See "14. Links".
1881 census at 25 Dane St, Denton, Lancashire -see his wife for full entry.
So the family moved from Warwick to Stockport to Gorton, Manchester to Denton
to Sheffield then George & Elizabeth & son John moved back to Denton by 1881.
There are 13 Dentons listed by www.streetmap.co.uk Our one is NOT that in N
Yorkshire NW of Ilkley (of Ilkley Moor Ba Tat fame - Do you know the song?)
- see 6.2.1 re censuses, but is that in Greater Manchester (formerly Cheshire,
then Lancashire).
1891-1901? familysearch ID L6Q8-HWQ
The 1888 condolence card for George.
The photo album of Henry [3] now held by Geoff HALL [381] begins with
this photo of George & Betsy HALL c1888.
m by 1847 sp-Elizabeth "Betsy" COOKE b 1822/23/24 Sheffield - ex 1861/51/71
OR b 1823 Bawtry,Yorks - ex 1881.
bp 12 APR 1823 Bawtry, Yorkshire; d 3.12.1891, interred at Christchurch,
Denton. #She has ID 3 in our COOKE family at
Our COOKE family of Bawtry, West Riding, South Yorks c1790 -c1881
0 0-William COOKE/COOK b c1790 Familysearch ID L6Q8-HF9
Cooke Family Tree on ancestry has a George HALL 1819 Winchcombe, Gloucestershire,
son of Thomas HALL b 1795 Winchcomb, Glouc. d October 1846 in Winchcomb, Glouc
& Lucy DAY b 2.2.1795 Winchcomb, Glouc. d .11.1854 Winchcomb, Glouc.
Cf IGI:
George HALL m c1843 at St Philip & St Jacob,Bristol sp-Elizabeth bc1822.
(Cf freebmd:
George Frederick HALL m Jun Q 1841 Newington, Surrey 4 352 sp-Eliza COOKE;
probably another couple.)
1851 4 Wellington Road South, Stockport, Cheshire ex Gerry LAWSON: [ID]
(found under Gloucestershire not Bristol)
George HALL Head M 31 1820 Bristol, Gloucestershire Hatter [0 above]
Elizabeth HALL Wife M 27 1824 Sheffield, Yorkshire Hat trimmer
Betsey HALL dau U 4 1847 Warwick, Warwickshire [1 below]
Emma HALL dau U 11 mo 1850 Stockport, Cheshire [2 below]
NB Stockport Heritage, Central & Info Libraries are at Wellington Road South,
Stockport, Cheshire SK1 3RS - Tel:0161 474 4530,4540,& 4524
localheritagelibrary"att"stockport.gov.uk
For a map see entries at http://www.192.com/directory.cfm/STOCKPORT/LIBRARY
NB The Museum of Hatting is close to this address: Wellington Mill,
Wellington Road South, Stockport SK3 0EU Tel: 0161 355 7770 Fax: 0161 480 8735
www.hatworks.org.uk See there for map.Email linn.holmstrom"att"stockport.gov.uk
"4 Wellington Road South has been replaced by Beckwith House, a redbrick,
multi-storey office block" - Keith DANSEY, Hat Works
keith.dansey@stockport.gov.uk 2005
"Number 4 is no longer there, but may have stood in the area which is now
occupied by the bus station."- Sam JACKSON Stockport CC
sam.jackson@stockport.gov.uk
"Wellington Road North becomes Wellington Road South on the bridge over the
River Mersey.
www.orbit-developments.co.uk/northwest/beckwith/description.asp
gives a picture of Beckwith House (N of the bridge) and, looking South, the bus
station and Wellington Mill where the museum is.
Enter http://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/home
The first building on the even numbers
side after the river is the Wellington Mill but, according to the Royal Mail,
it does not have a number. Right next door to the mill is a small factory which
makes components for hearing aids. It rejoices in the unfortunate title of
Universal Aids. Their postal address is 8-14 Wellington Road South. Next door
we have the carpet shop, 16 Wellington Road South.
The map of Stockport dated 1872 shows a large square block next to Wellington
Mill labelled Daw Bank Mill,then Exchange Street, across Exchange Street is
shown a long narrow block which could have been houses. My guess is number 4
was one of these. Today, this site is occupied by the Post Sorting Office,
which look like a 1950s building. ... Wellington Road South is carried over
the river by means of a road bridge which is then continued, on the same level,
by a series of arches. The bus station is
accessed under these arches. Any buildings which once stood on this level would
be either on streets called Daw Bank or Chestergate. On the upper level
Wellington Road South continues on its arches until it reaches Wellington Mill,
an old cotton mill where our museum is now located. After that the numbering
resumes at number 16 which is now a carpet shop."
- Keith DANSEY, Hat Works keith.dansey@stockport.gov.uk 2005.
1861 171 York St, Gorton, eccleastical district St Thomas, [Manchester, M18]
ex David WESTON: [ID]
George HALL Head M 41 1820 Bristol, Gloucester Silk hat maker [0 above]
Elizabeth HALL Wife M 39 1822 Sheffield, Yorkshire Hat trimmer
Betsy HALL Dau U 14 1847 Warwick?, Warwickshire? Cotton weaver [1 below]
Henry HALL U 8 1853 Stockport, Cheshire Scholar [3 below]
Sarahann HALL Dau U 4 1857 Stockport, Cheshire Cotton weaver [4 below]
William HALL U 8 months 1860 Stockport, Cheshire [5 below]
In 1909 Gorton became a District of Manchester to its SE: see
http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/districts/gorton.html
1871 Manchester Rd, Denton, SE Lancashire, Reg. District Ashton-under-Lyne,
town of Denton, Part of Christchurch & St Lawrence's Ecclesiastical Districts,
Parish of Manchester: ID
George HALL Head M 57 1814 Bristol, Gloucestershire Hatter [0]
Elizabeth HALL Wife M 48 1823 Sheffield, Yorkshire Hat trimmer
Sarah A HALL Daur U 15 1856 Stockport, Cheshire Hat trimmer [4 below]
John James HALL Son 5 1866 Denton, Lancashire [6 below]
Elizabeth SCHOFIELD Lodger W 38 1833 Stockport, Cheshire Hat trimmer
Elizabeth Ann SCHOFIELD (Daur) Lodger 5 1866 DuRinfield, Cheshire
(George & Elizabeth are named in Harry's WW1 diary.)
"Denton was one of the centres of the hatting trade. Felt hatting was
quite specialised and depended on a good "soft" water supply, so small
areas often became magnets for the hatting industry. As George was born
in Bristol, I would suggest you have a look around the Bitton-Oldland
Common area just to the west of Bristol as this was the chief hatting
area for Bristol. Quite a number of Bitton hatters moved to Denton
during the 19th Century, so it is possible he learned his trade there!
- David BAXENDELL davidbax@paradise.net.nz 2002.
See http://www.bittonhistory.org.uk/industries/hat-making/
1881 Dwelling 25 Dane St, Denton, Lancashire:
Name Relation Marital Status Age Birthplace Occupation [ID]
George HALL Head M 60 1821 Bristol, Gloucester Felt Hat Finisher [0]
Elizabeth HALL Wife M 58 1823 Bawtry, Yorks Felt Hat Trimmer
John J. HALL Son U 16 1865 Denton, Lanc Warehouse Boy [6 below]
(Multimap shows a number of Dane Sts near Manchester. The closest to Denton is
the 2nd at M11 off Ackroyd & Wetherby Sts off Ogden Lane S of Ashton Old Rd
S of Droylsden. The others are near Rochdale, Bolton & Oldham.)
1891 not found.
?1901 Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield ex David WESTON:
Elizabeth HALL 75 1826 Sheffield, Yorks
- see (I) under her son [6] John below for full details.
Not found there or on ancestry!
Condolence card for Elizabeth HALL nee COOKE. "Elizabeth relict of the late George HALL d 3.12.1891, interred at Christchurch, Denton. 116 Clifton Cresc, Peckham, London SE 8.12.1892" We need to check who was living at this address. Was Elizabeth living there alone? Familysearch ID L6Q8-H4X
1 1-Betsy HALL b 1847 Warwick, Warwickshire.
1851-61 with parents. 1861 aged 14 Cotton weaver.
Reverse: Aunt Bessie & a friend. Miss Vera Hall, Park Rd, Akd. </A><pre>
Front: produced from a glass plate that was taken 45 years ago 1864.
(So, produced in 1909.) - from [37] Vera's collection, held by KW.
In 1864 Betsy/Bessie would be 17. She is probably
Betsey HALL b reg Jun Q 1847 Warwick 16 9 -ex freebmd.
Other possible Betsy HALLs b Warwicks at freebmd:
BH Mar 1844 Foleshill, Warwickshire;
BH Mar 1844 Solihull, Warwickshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire;
BH Jun 1845 Birmingham;
Betsy Selina HALL Dec 1853 Alcester - not ours (cf other censuses).
Also Mar 1845 Elizabeth Mary Warwick 16 [53]6[6];
1848 Elizabeth Warwick 16 578.
??1871 Edgbaston, Warwickshire:
Elizabeth HALL Servant U 24 1847 Birmingham, Warwickshire
??1881 55 Digbeth, Birmingham, Warwickshire with Edward GIBBS GP, MRCS:
Betsey HALL Servant U 34 1847 B.Ham, Warwickshire General Serv Domestic
However that EH is likely EH b1847 Birmingham with parents Samuel & El. in
1851 in London. There are 2 other EHs b1846 Birmingham in 1871.
familysearch ID LT5F-ZJ2
2 1-Emma HALL b 3.4.1850 Heaviley, Stockport, Chester
freebmd: Births Jun 1850 HALL Emma Stockport 19 353.
Her birth certificate: father - George HALL, hatter;
mother - Elizabeth HALL formerly COOKE; informant
George HALL father of Heaviley, Stockport; registered 6.5.1850.
1851 with parents at Stockport. 1861 not with parents so may have died.
(1851 has another EH b1849 Stockport to Daniel & Mary.
Freebmd has other EHs b Jun & Dec Q 1852, & Sep 1853 Stockport.)
freebmd:
Deaths Sep 1872 HALL Emma 22 Stockport 8a 37 unmarried
- unlikely to be her as registered by a Samuel HALL who was present at the death;
parents not given.
Heavily is c 1 mile SSE of Stockport town centre, in the direction of Buxton.
It has a WW1 memorial at St George's & 3 pubs in Buxton Road.
familysearch ID LT5F-XX3
OUR BRANCH
3 1-Henry HALL (b 4.3.1853 at 6 Rowcroft Place, Stockport, Chester;
d 17.3.1931 at Alfriston Rd, Manurewa, Auckland)
(The b date & place 29.5.1851 Denton, Lancs. was incorrect; perhaps this was
an older brother of the same name who died?)
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Here is his birth certificate: father - George HALL, hatter; </A><pre>
mother - Elizabeth HALL formerly COOKE; informant X The mark of Elizabeth HALL
mother of 6 Rowcroft Place, Stockport; registered 4.4.1853
17.11.05 ex Norman rowcroft@tesco.net: Many years ago there
was a Rowcroft Smithy 1 mile south of Stockport town centre on what
was then the turnpike road to London. It is still a major road (the A6).
The smithy was situated where the road branches off to Bramhhall.
There were several ROWCROFT families in the Stockport area. The smithy may
have been associated with one of them and Rowcroft Place with the smithy.
Not found at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
1861 census with parents: U 8 1853 scholar b Stockport, Cheshire.
1871 census not found - not with his parents in Denton.
Postcard of Crown Point, Denton. On it [3] HH has written Ashton Rd (L arrow),
Stockport Rd (R arrow), Hyde Rd (up arrow)
- from Henry & Laura's postcard album now held by [381] Geoff HALL.
I have a sheet with Henry & Laura's photo album:
11 Portland Street, Upperthorpe, Sheffield, 187-
Dr. To HENRY HALL, FU
When Henry married Laura in 1877 his occupation was joiner, and he lived in
Walkely, Sheffield. Witness: Antoinette SPARKS. The marriage was
registered in Sheffield 1877 (Sept qtr vol 9c p590). (His wife's family was
at 108 Walkley St, Nether Hallam (Sheffield) in the 1881
census. Walkley St runs between Daniel Hill & Industry Street. -EP)
(See in the links under 14. below for more on Walkely and Upperthorpe.)
1879 to New Zealand.
Geoff HALL [381] has Henry's 1879 ship diary kept on his trip from England to Auckland on the barque LEBU, typed by his wife Charmaine & sent me 6.6.2018!
It is quite long so I’VE put it up as a separate post at
Henry HALL's 1879 diary on the barque LEBU from England to Auckland
Henry HALL's 1879 diary on the barque LEBU from England to Auckland
This is a huge treasure for the family. Some excerpts:
The waves broke on the fore castle and washed right aft and over her midships
taking all that was loose with them - 5.7.1879. The top gallant spar broke in
two - 29.7.1879. Our condensing engine is now working as the water is as thick
as sludge -31.7.1879. .. very heavy squall bursting in torrents all over the
ship - 4.8.1879. Our ship keeps diving under the waves & shipping waves right
over the forecastle - 7.8.1879. We keep sailing over the same water time after
time so as to steer clear of the Brussels Rocks - 12.8.1879. We appear to be
just in one latitude and we cannot get out of it - 13.8.1879. Our boat diving
and shipping very heavy seas over the forecastle. We are driven out of our
course close to the south coast of America. Can see land quite plain
- 14.8.1879. Our crew have christened our ship the diving bell - 15.8.1879.
We had our fore jib sail blown in pieces during another squall in which we
shipped heavy seas - 16.8.1879. Our upper top sail is carried away -30.8.1879.
... hail stones come as big as marbles - 5.9.1879. 2 men at the wheel as one
could not steer her by himself - 7.9.1879. Passengers are playing a game of
take & touch so as to keep themselves warm as the weather gets colder & colder
- 10.9.1879. Hundreds of pigeons & molly were flying about ... Had 2 to our
dinner - 14.9.1879. Sailors been working all night and have had a hard nights
work reefing and unreefing the sails which is no easy job when the wind is
blowing a hurricane fit to blow a man to pieces- 17.9.1879. ... the awful sight
the sea presents but wave after wave coming over the ship in a dreadful manner
and making the ship appear to be sinking. The ship appears to be sailing in a
great valley of water, valley after valley the sea presents to the eye
- 19.9.1879. Two of our crew are laid up with sickness... we are now among
the icebergs. - 23.9.1879. Our fore sail was split with the wind- 28.9.1879.
10.30 a very heavy snow falls- 29.9.1879. ... our flour will only last about
2 more weeks and water as well... The fault of taking passengers in a chartered
ship - .10.1879. We had a narrow escape of going on one of the rocks between
Van Diemens Land - 12.10.1879. ... what we are drinking is so thick that
you cannot see to the bottom of a cup - 13.10.1879. We had the back stays
carried away - 14.10.1879. One of the crew has got the scurvy - 15.10.1879.
We sighted the 3 Kings at 4.25 - 18.10.1879. [Near Great Barrier Island]
a hurricane came on and blew us in the deep ocean again - 21.10.1879.
water is the colour and thickness of brown paint & is making some of passengers
ill. 4 of our crew are down with the skurvey... The only way you can [eat the
biscuits] is to soak them and they require soaking 4 to 6 hours. - 22.10.1879.
The country seems to be all round about us & is one of the most splendid
harbours & finest mountain scenery I have ever witnessed. - 24.10.1879.
Auckland from the wharf looks a scattered place & has the appearance of a newly
inhabited mountainous country, a few buildings here & there... There is no fire
grate at all in the houses... The way the people cook here is enough to puzzle
anyone. They use what they call camp ovens... The people in the colony are of
a very independent nature & will not look at you if you ask them a question.
They will give you a very shy answer. They are all sprung of a middle class and
are as stuck up as can be... if they know you are poor they will try & keep you
there.. There are 100s of people out of employment... You cannot tell the
difference between man & master - 25.10.1879.
Geoff also has old family albums, postcard photos of Denton, &
a lodge certificate from the Royal Order of Foresters:
"This is to certify that Bro. Henry HALL is duly enrolled a Past Chief Ranger
of Court 6172 this 15.6.1887. Signed Bro. Arthur HOLMES Chief Ranger, Bro RN
HONEYCOMBE Subchief Ranger, Bro Wm WEBBER Secretary". Geoff also has Henry's
lodge sash & lodge medallion for Court 6172 (Auckland?). The case is inscribed
Presented to Bro. H HALL Aug 18 1897 - T. JONES, Jeweller, Newton, Auckland.
For more on the Foresters order see
http://www.stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/foresters_en.html
In 1901 they met fortnightly in the Foresters' Hall, Newton with accumulated
funds of £8180.
Henry HALL's 1887 members certificate for the Foresters Lodge, Auckland
- from collection of Geoff HALL
Henry HALL's sash for the Foresters Lodge, Auckland from collection of Geoff HALL
Henry HALL's medal for the Foresters Lodge, Auckland from collection of Geoff HALL. Geoff also has Henry's will: Will of Henry HALL 1.11.1930 ...
Henry HALL of Manurewa ... retired engineer.
2. I appoint my son Leslie George HALL, Julias Mclachlan HOGBEN of Auckland ..
solicitor, & Douglas D'Arcy VICKERMAN of Auckland, estate agent .. to be the
executors & trustees.
3. I give .. to my daughters Florence Henrietta WILSON, Laura Elizabeth ASKEW,
Sylvia Elizabeth FARRAR, Evelyn Maud TRAYES, & Vera Bessie RUSSELL 25P free of
duty.
4. I give .. my real & personal estate .. upon trust .. [for trustees] to
invest .. & to pay the income .. to Leslie George HALL.
Witnesses George & J QUAID, farmers, Manurewa.
Geoff has St Philips Parish Notes for Feb & Jan 1913 "The church
Mam & I was married at" with a photo? of the church "as it is now with railings
round".
Henry's photo album starts with a photo of his parents George & Betsy.
It includes photos of [4] eg "Sister Sarah an Hall 1853" [4], "H HALL & Sister
Sarahan Hall 1855" [4] - on the back: Th. M WATERS photographer 380 Stockport
Rd, Manchester. The album includes a photo "The tank has just been to Sheffield
to collect war loans"
.'H HALL when I first met man 1873' by Jas TULLEY, Sheffield
- from Henry & Laura's album now held by Geoff HALL.
Les's? album has "View of Thomasa showing hospital: Mr H HALL, 79 Park Rd,
Auckland".
Henry's effects held by Geoff include a duelling pistol c1800
made by Jan Andre KUCHENREUTER (presumed to be Johann Andreas KUCHENREUTER,
Regensburg, Bavaria, 1716-95 - ex google), and a cutlas with alligator skin.
Duelling pistol and alligatorskin? cutlas
owned by Henry HALL - from collection of Geoff HALL.
Betty [332] says that Henry was brought to NZ as an engineer to instal heavy
equipment at Auckland Hospital. June [361] says he lived at `RIVELIN', (named
after their home in England) in Grafton Rd opposite the hospital. He built
houses in Auckland. Retired to Remuera. Later moved to `Fern Nook', 79 Park
Road. He owned Lots 12 & 13 on Park Rd & part of lot 8 backing on to Lot 13:
frontage 90'5", boundary with lot 11 is 115'6", boundary with lot 14 is
152'9" - ex hand drawn map "conveyed from Mr RENZINA to Mr H HALL; valuation
300 P" held by Geoff [381]
.Survey map showing property of Henry HALL in Park Road, opposite Auckland Domain - from collection of Geoff HALL.
This photo taken 20.7.1966 shows 83, 79 & 73 Park Road. Courtesy of Ak Univ. Property Services via KT.
For more on Rivelin (photos) & Fern Nook, see the info following his wife Laura
below supplied by Kay TRAYES from the Takapuna Library and Archives in 2002.
Death certificate: retired engineer died 17.3.1931 at Alfriston Rd, Manurewa
[just S of Regional Botanic Gardens] aged 79 of senile decay, atheroma of
arteries, etc; son of George HALL barrister and - nee COOKE; buried 18.3.1931
at Purewa Cemetery, Auckland by JE DRAPER Anglican; b Denton, England;
52 years in NZ; married at Denton, England at 26 to Laura Elizabeth RATHBONE;
issue living: M aged 34,32; F aged 52 50 48 47 36; Thos G McIVOR undertaker.
(This confirms his b place but contradicts his m place & father's occupation.)
(Check with council archives for St no. in Alfriston Rd.)
Henry HALL c1874 - from collection of Geoff HALL.
Henry HALL c1890 in regalia of the Foresters Lodge, Auckland </A><pre>
- from the collection of Geoff HALL. Brett S told me that Henry's apron shows
that he had been a master of the lodge. The jewel medal shows the lodge he was
in. The + symbol shows he was a warden, & the epaulettes & collar that he held
an active position.
Henry HALL c1890 from collection of Geoff HALL.
Henry and son Les, ID 38 below, taken 4.3.1921.
Bereavement notice ex [381]: The family of the late Mr Henry HALL wish to
convery their sincere thanks & appreciation for your expressions of sympathy
in their recent bereavement. - Park Road & Manurewa, March 1931.
2 photos of the plinth above their grave at Purewa, Auckland,
courtesy of Kay TRAYES 3222. On one side is written:
"In loving memory of Laura Elizabeth dearly beloved wife of Henry HALL
who departed this life 5th November 1918 in her 61st year. At rest."
On another:
"In loving memory of Henry dearly beloved husband of Laura Elizabeth HALL
who departed this life 17th March 1931 in his 79th year. Re-united. A 3rd side:
In loving memory of Lieutenant? H.F. HALL Auckland Infantry Battalion, killed
in action at Messines France on 9th June 1917, aged 29 years."
Downhill from this grave is a FARRAR grave: see under 1222 for details.
When his son Harry [35] enlisted, Henry was living at 2 Beaconsfield St.,
Devonport.
These photos of the house were taken by Kay in 2002.
Handwritten ex 1215 via KT: "and Henry HALL died March 17th 1931 in his 79th
yr. Both interred at Purewa, Auckland."
When Harry was killed on 9.6.1917, he was living at Dominion Rd, Devonport
according to the bereavement note sent out by Henry HALL. Kay notes that in
1929 Dominion Rd became Allenby Ave. (after a WW1 general). (It turns left off
Memorial Drive as one approaches Devonport.) In 1917 when Vera [37] first
married, she & Rex lived at Derby Rd, off Allenby Av.
www.purewa.co.nz gives
HALL Henry 79 Years died 17.3.1931; Serial No 10079;Date of Service 18.3.1931
Funeral Dir TJ McIvor & Sons Ltd, 434 Karangahape Rd; Block F 38 Plot 104:
get map from office & drive W til the end of Block A where a side road goes to
N; Row 38 is just past that side road starting with graves 75-78 WATSON,
79-83 WELLS, 84 JOHNSON, 85 KITCHENER, 86 BUTLER, ... 103 SILK, 104 HALL just
before a pohutukawa, with oak & fir trees to the right a few yards,
105 HALL/WILSON [see 33 Florence below], 106 LYES, ...
Geoff [381] has his postcard "KSSC AWAROA arriving Helensville".
familysearch ID L6Q8-WP2
m 2.8.1877 at St Philip's, Walkley, Sheffield sp-Laura Elizabeth RATHBONE
b 1857 Brook Lane?,Sheffield d 6.11.1918 Auckland.
St Philip's where they married.
St Philips Sheffield Parish Notes Jan-Feb 1913: HH or LH has added
to the etching of the church 'as it is now with railings round'
- from Henry & Laura's postcard album now held by Geoff HALL.
RIVELIN, presumably the home of Henry & Laura HALL in Sheffield,
- from collection of Vera, held by KW.
1861 census at Brook Lane, Sheffield with her parents & brother
ex paddison49@hotmail.com 2005:
Thomas RATHBONE 43 1818 CHS Wareham Boot and shoe maker
Elizabeth RATHBONE 24 1836 NTT Retford Straw bonnet maker
Laura E. RATHBONE 3 1858 YKS Sheffield
Thomas H. RATHBONE 2 1859 YKS Sheffield
freebmd: m regd Sep qtr 1877 at Sheffield 9c 590.
Laura has ID 644 in our RATHBONE tree at
formerly http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kitwithers/rathbone/rathbone.html
This also gives Laura's WOLSTONCROFT and DRINKWATER ancestors and links to our PASLEY tree with our PASLEY, NEWBOLD, BYRON, SPIVEY ancestors.
Re St Philip's church in St. Philip's Road, Sheffield: "The church completed
around 1828, giving it's name to the surrounding area. It closed in 1940,
demolished in 1952, and the graveyard finally removed about 1994."
Laura HALL nee RATHBONE c1890 from Henry & Laura's album via Geoff HALL:
Henry and Laura c1915.
Possibly Mrs Laura HALL & her 2 oldest children aged c2 & 3:
Laura HALL outside LEBU, their home in Devonport, c1915 - ex GH.
Laura c1918.
Addresses of relatives Laura wrote out for Harry (46 below).
when he left for WW1.
Henry & Laura immigrated to New Zealand in 1879 arriving with their first child.
"There is an entry in the Auckland Passenger Index for
Laura and Henry HALL arriving in Auckland on the LEBU on 24/10/1879."
- Thanks to Karen KALOPULU, Family History Librarian, PO Box 4138, Auckland,
tel (09)307-7773 kalopulK@akcity.govt.nz 2001.
NZ Herald 25.10.1879: ARRIVALS Lebu, barque, [Captain] LINDSAYdr, from London.
Passengers: Saloon (2) Steerage - Henry HALL, Laura HALL, Laura E. HALL [& 26
others. No other HALL are included nor any RATHBONE.]
Their arrivals are also at http://0-www.aucklandcity.govt.nz.www.elgar.govt.nz
BB found their arrival on the site for Auckland passenger arrivals 1838-1886
http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/dbtw-wpd/exec/dbtwpub.dll
Full passenger lists are available from the newspaper "New Zealand Herald"
records in person at the Auckland Research Center.
A google web search for LEBU turned up their ship & what looks like 3 others:
(1): http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~dchamber/shipsl.htm
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~dchamber/shipsl.htm#lebu
AJHR 1879 Section H10 page 25 Return of Wrecks
Date of Casualty : 16 Aug 1878
Name of Master : Henry Govan McKENZIE
Age of Vessel : 10 years
Rig : Barque
Register Tonnage : 726
Number of Crew : 22
Number of Passengers : 14
Nature of Cargo : General
Nature of Casualty : Loss of life
Number of Lives Lost : 1
Place of Accident : Lat. 40o 57'S., Long. 59o 8'E
Wind Direction : SW
Wind Force : Heavy
Finding of Court of Inquiry
Casualty caused by sea coming on board and throwing captain against the winch.
(His head was split open crown to nose.)
My guess is that this WAS their ship, as it seems unlikely that another ship
of the same name would arrive NZ 14 months later.
(2): There is prison ship LEBU in Chile 1999 holding political prisoners.
(3): The Index to Ships (c50,000) Mentioned in Maritime History Books
at http://faculty.washington.edu/petermcc/shipindex.html
lists LEBU gas boat page 449 of book by NEWELL, Gordon, ed.
"The H. W. McCurdy Marine History of the Pacific Northwest. Seattle:
Superior Publishing Company, 1966. Subtitled, "An illustrated review of the
growth and development of the maritime industry from 1895, ..."
(4): "log of logs - a catalog of logs journals shipboard diaries letters ...
1788-1988 for Oz & NZ.." by Ian NICHOLSON 18 Wununga Cr, Yaroomba Qnsld 4573.
Henry & Laura HALL's home at Cheltenham, Devonport, Auckland
- from Henry & Laura's album now held by Geoff HALL.
Laura seated in her garden - from Henry's album now held by Geoff HALL.
Henry & Laura - presumably with a daughter & 2 grandchildren.
- from their album now held by Geoff HALL.
Laura died 1918 at her home at 79 Park Rd West, Auckland aged 61. (Listed as
71 Park Rd [Grafton] in website memorial of Harry [35].) Rates records
confirmed FERN NOOK as 79 Park Rd West [opposite Park Ave] not 71. It is now
The School of Optometry/the School of Medicine, Auckland University Grafton
Campus. Laura died of a long & painfull illness -KT. [I thought she died in
the 1918 flu epidemic.]
Death certificate: Laura Elizabeth HALL d 6.11.1918 at 79 Park Road, Auckland
of cerebral haemorrhage 1 hours, daughter of Thomas RATHBONE and Elizabeth nee
PASLEY; buried 8.11.1918 at Purewa by Rev WA KEAY? Anglican; b Sheffield,
38 years in NZ [so arrived c1880]; married at Sheffield at age 20 to Henry
HALL; ages of issue: M 36 32 29 19 F 38 30 24 21; TJ McIVOR undertaker.
The following info was found by Kay TRAYES at the Takapuna Library and Archives
in 2002.
1 Dominion Rd,Devonport (LEBU) is a beautiful large character villa with huge
old trees, on the corner of Dominion Rd (NOW Allenby Rd - Can someone check if
this is still No. 1?) as 1 Allenby Rd is not next door to 7 Derby St but across
the road from the house next door to 7 Derby St) and Derby St
and opposite a park; is newly-clad and painted and is the original home.
The records show the rates paid by Laura HALL.
These 2 photos of LEBU taken 2002 are from Kay.
One from the corner, the other from Dominion (now Allenby) Rd shows the gate
with a space where it seems once was a plaque "Lebu".
Kay told me in 2006 it is on the market for c$950,000.
7 Derby St, Devonport, next door on a more sloped section, where Vera and Rex
lived is a smaller attractive pioneer style villa with a long verandah facing
the road, only an off-road space for one car, and the original stained-glass
front door panel with the inscription - RIVELIN (not Riverlin) is named after
their home in Sheffield, which in turn was named after Rivelin Valley,
Sheffield!
RIVELIN, presumably the home of Henry & Laura HALL in Sheffield, </A><pre>
- from collection of Vera, held by me.
This photo shows RIVELIN on the front door of their Devonport home.
Seated on left is 31 Laura ASKEW with son 311 Ian c3 (so the year is c1917) &
on right is 3-sp Laura HALL & a boy standing in a sailor suit, presumably
324 Arthur FARRAR c4 or 331 Raymond BRAMBLEY c6. Can anyone confirm?
- from collection of Vera, held by me.
A photo of 3-sp Laura HALL taken at the same time - held by me.
- from Vera's collection, held by KW.
http://maps.google.co.nz/ gives a photo of their Devonport house - close to
Allenby Ave.
On the door the print is upper case with the R and N large, sloping to smaller
print with the E in the middle the smallest letter. Harry wrote to Vera that
he was pleased to hear that she and Rex were living in the Derby St home.
This home is included in the same rates as 1 Dominion Rd - they are Lots 22
and 23 Area 5- both have white picket fences. RIVELIN had a Barfoot & Thompson
sold sign out front. B&T office told us it sold before it was photographed for
advertising...
Henry HALL also owned another property in Derby St and sold 60ft x 100ft to
the Post Office.
These 2 photos of RIVELIN taken 2002 are from Kay.
RIVELIN was also the name of the home of Rex RUSSELL's father, Frank Henry
RUSSELL [ID 32254 in russell.html]: Rivelin, 86 Harpenden Road, St Albans,
Herts, c1948.
Henry also owned 61 Albert Rd around the corner from the Derby St properties.
2 Beaconsfield St is on record as rates paid by Henry HALL, harder to
photograph due to a large wooden vine- covered fence in the front and a car in
the driveway but we took a photo anyway. It is a really lovely old rambling
home with big verandahs front and back and big windows, on a flat section.
Harry must have loved this home and Street to name his trench Beaconsfield.
Lovers Walk, Devonport is aptly named, an attractive, short, narrow, no exit
road leading to Cheltenham Beach lined with pohutukawas and renamed Arawa St.
1 Lovers Walk, where Vera and Rex lived after their marriage,
is a typical bay villa of the era. It has had an addition to
the top since they lived there. -Kay T 2002.
Cheltenham beach. FIND the wonderful 1896 photo of the Devonport Bowling Club members ex KT
- Henry HALL is 2nd on L.
KT: 'Of note too is rates paid by Henry HALL for 17 Cheltenham Tce now Oxford
Terrace. This property is opposite Cheltenham Beach.
All these name changes of roads! All those properties owned by the HALLs!'
Rates Records show Henry HALL owned a dwelling on the corner of Vauxhall Tce
and Vauxhall Rd occupied by Geo BRAMLEY (note spelling no 'b'- lots of spelling
errors occur in records- should be BRAMBLEY). -Kay T 2002.
Laura's death notice states that her brother Thomas H. RATHBONE lived at
Kingsland, Auckland. www.purewa.co.nz gives
HALL Laura Elizabeth Age 61,Death 6.11.1918,Serial No 6559, Service 9.11.1918
Funeral Dir TJ McIvor & Sons Ltd, 434 Karangahape Road, Auckland
Block F 38 Plot 105.
In 2001, Henry and Laura HALL had 8 children, 15 grandchildren,
46 greatgrandchildren, 107 greatgreatgrandchildren, and 14 greatgreatgreats!
In what follows I have separated their 8 children Laura, Sylvia, Florence,
Evelyn, Reginald, Harry, Vera and Leslie by dashed lines -----, and their 15
grandchildren by broken lines - - - - -.
Their 8 children c1900: Back 3 Flo b 1882 & Harry.
L to R: 7 Vera b 1897, 4 Evelyn b 1882, 2 Sylvia b 1880, 1 Laura b 1878.
Front 8 Leslie b 1901 & 6 Reg b 1897? - Reg looks younger than Vera. Held by me.
The same photo - from Henry's album now held by Geoff HALL.
FamilySearch ID LCPX-J8X.
31 2-Laura Louise HALL b 1878 England or possibly on the LEBU
d 3.1.1953 Auckland at 74, bur Waikumete cem. She is Laura Louise
HALL b Jun Q 1879 Ecclesall Bierlow [Sheffield], Yorkshire - West Riding.
Teacher at Rawene, Northland. In the 1915-17 diary of her brother Harry [35]
below, her address was "Ohura School, King Country".
In the birthday book c1888 of 646 of
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kitwithers/rathbone/rathbone.html
her birthday is March 16.
Henry & Laura's eldest 4 daughters, Laura, Sylvia, Florence & Eveline HALL c1905
ex - GH.
?31 Laura driving horse & cart with ?37 Vera & Mrs Laura HALL sitting in the rear
- from Vera's collection.
31 Laura - from Vera's collection.
31 Laura. On the back of this photo she wrote: "Dear Vera, Thanks for letter. As promised, I send photo of myself, but you must not sell it for a rat extinguisher, Best love, Laura" "New Zealand, Obituaries, 1844-1963," database with images, FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPTC-FQPN : 19 January 2021, Laura
in entry for James Wemyss ASKEW, 30 Jun 1952; citing New Zealand, various New
Zealand newspapers; FHL microfilm 7,832,336.
Familysearch ID L55K-J2Y.
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m 1909 sp-James Weymess ASKEW (9.8.1861 Wakapuaka, Nelson-29.6.1952 Mt Albert,
Auckland) Obituary 30.6.1952.
'In loving memory of my dear parents James Weymess ASKEW d 29.6.1952 aged 92.
Also Laura Louise ASKEW d 3.1.1953 Auckland aged 74. Forever remembered
by their loving son Ian.' Bur. Protestant Lawn A Row 4 plot 50 Waikumete cem.
This was his 2nd marriage. His 1st was in 1887 at Devonport to Mary Alice
EASTHAM. Barbara BULLOCH (see
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kitwithers/rathbone/rathbone.html)
has a postcard they sent to her mother(?) with a photo of their home perhaps
cWW1. On the other side is "Netherhallam", Seabrook Avenue, New Lynn, Auckland,
NZ. - Our home. Xmas greetings from the Askews. They moved to Mt Albert.
Their family bible is now with [4113] below. ** See ASKEW tree at 7 below. **
FamilySearch ID LT5F-7HM then LT5F-HBX
311 3-Ian James Hughes Weymess ASKEW (.11.1914 Rawene-1.7.1983 Okaihau, near
Kawakawa, north Auckland) He was the first pakeha born in Rawene. He attended
medical school. Served in WW2. An A grade mechanic with Ministry of Works.
FamilySearch ID LT5F-7HM.
m1 Woodend? sp-Huria Julian Jeanette MILLER (9.4.1922 Woodend) daughter of
James MILLER. Divorced. She appears on the Maori Land Court database under
Takitimu.
……………………………………………………….
3111 4-Maureen Hine Kirunga ASKEW b 28.7.1943 Christchurch, d c2005 of
emphysema.
1999: 130 Hurley Place, Cambridge. 2000: Otaika, Valley Road, Whangarei.
m sp-Alan Roy PARSONS (1.6.1942 Pirongia near Te Awamutu - 20.7.1994 Hamilton)
Son of Alan Roy PARSONS and Mrs Ruth WHITING (bc1924). Owner of Alan Parsons
Motors, Hamilton. Car salesman. In 1994 they lived at Flagstaff, Hamilton.
He was murdered by his son Martin after Alan discovered Martin was stealing
from the business.
…………………….
31111 5-Steven Noel PARSONS (29.12.1961 Hamilton -.3.1961 Hamilton) #Fix dates
31112 5-Joyrene Amy PARSONS (29.8.1962 Hamilton)
m Hamilton sp-David Joseph MILLS
* 1999: 6 Enfield St, Hamilton
311121 6-Steven Joseph MILLS (25.6.1984 Hamilton)
311122 6-David Alan MILLS (29.7.1987 Hamilton)
31113 5-Martin Roy PARSONS (19.12.1963 Hamilton)
* 2002: Palmerston North.
m1 Hamilton sp-Brenda SOPER? No children. Divorced.
m2 .1.1991 Hamilton sp-Melissa WOODFORD? No children. Divorced.
========================================================
[311 3-Ian James Weymess Humes ASKEW (.11.1914 Rawene-1.7.1983 Okaihau)]:
m2 26.2.1949 Pitt St Methodist Church, Auckland sp-Eileen FOOTE (23.6.1926 New
Plymouth) daughter of Albert and Hilda FOOTE of Auckland). Divorced. Interests
garden, bowls, gold panning, fishing. She remarried Leonard David ROMAINE
(-30.9.93 Nelson), *1996: 52 Iwa St, Mapua, Nelson *1999: 40 Tairere Rd, RD 5,
Warkworth tel 09 422 6423 on property of daughter Jan [3113].
……………………………………………………….
3112 4-Carolyn "Carol" Joy Wemyss ASKEW (22.1.1950 Epsom, Auckland) Dental
assistant; interests outdoors & nature. She has the prayer book of [31] in
which is written "Laura L W-Askew". She and John run the gallery and the bed
and breakfast attached, "set in a sculptured 2 acres of garden with views
across an estuary to a wild fowl sanctuary and the mountains beyond".
*1996: 456B High St, Motueka *1999: Copper Beech Gallery, 240 Thorp St,Motueka.
ph/fax 03 528 7456
m 29.6.1968 Grey Lynn Presbyterian Church, Auckland sp-John Richard GATENBY
(22.7.1947 Motueka) He is a renowned sea and landscape artist.
31121 5-Michelle Kay GATENBY (5.1.1969 Auckland) hairdresser; interests
garden, needlework.
m 13.10.1990 St Thomas's Anglican, Motueka sp-Craig Eliott James FRY
(21.12.1965 Motueka) orchardist & apple farmer in Motueka; interests hunting
& fishing.
*1999-2014: Box 67, Umukuri Rd, Brooklyn, Motueka 7198. Tel 03 528 6670.
311211 6-Eliot John FRY (13.1.1994 Nelson)
311212 6-Hannah Kathleen FRY (28.7.1996 Nelson)
31122 5-Kerry John GATENBY (26.9.1972 Nelson) works for timber mill, interests
hunting, tramping, fishing.
*1999: living in Sydney, working for a courier firm.
…………………………………………………………………………………..
3113 4-Janice "Jan" Fay Wemyss ASKEW (5.10.1952 Auckland) Attended Sunnynook
Primary & Auckland Girls Grammar. Worked for international telephone exchange
for 5 years. In 1980 bought Warkworth Passenger Service bus company. Sold it in
1986 to Gubbs. Tour operator for Gubbs Coachline, Warkworth. Has family bible
of 11 & James ASKEW. She is also Coastal Sales Consultant for Ray White Real
Estate in Warkworth.
* 1996-2001: RD5, Warkworth;1st on R, 40 Tairere Rd, Ti Point, Leigh;
ph 09 422 6908 work 09 425 8348 mobile 025 925 760 jan.haslam@xtra.co.nz
m1 1969 Auckland sp-Roy George HASLAM (22.8.1950 Auckland) divorced 1973.
………………………………..
31131 5-Tracy Jan HASLAM (26.10.1969 Auckland) Attended Sunnynook Primary,
Mahurangi College in Warkworth & Auckland Girls Grammar. She and her sister
Jody exhibited horses at the Puhoi Show. Hostess at Expo '88 in Brisbane then
traveled widely. In '93 at Taradale Polytech in Hastings she studied
grapegrowing & winemaking, planning to establish a vinyard at Ti Point,
Warkworth. In 1999 she worked for Lombardy Wines tel 06 8777 895.
KT has sent me this cutting from Rodney Times News</A><pre>
`Women, wine & pursuit of a dream' with photo of `Winemaker Tracy HASLAM
enjoying the fruits of her first harvest at Ti Point.'
Rodney Times 16.11.2006 p19 ex KT "A drop of success" </A><pre>-
`NZ's glamour wine show, the Air NZ Wine Awards, will be an occasion to
remember for the 3-generation HASLAM family of Ti Point Wines on the Matakana
coast..." This photo is headed
`GOLD MEDAL WINNER: Winemaker Tracy HASLAM with chn George, Bruno & Ruby'.
*2001: c/o David MASON, Sacred Hill Wines, RD 5, Hastings. tel 06 844 3418.
……………………….
m/df sp-David MASON of Sacred Hill Wines. They have been partners since
1992. They have financed 9 acres of Jan's land as a vinyard with 9000 vines,
and 2 acres in olives.
*1999: 62 West Quay, Ahuriri, Napier.
311311 6-Bruno Hamilton MASON (15.11.2000 Hastings or 26.11.2000 Napier)
311312 6-Ruby MASON
311313 6-George MASON
31132 5-Jody Pam HASLAM (29.9.1971 Auckland) Attended Mahurangi College. Cook
at N Shore Hospital to 1992.
m/df sp-Gene ILLINGWORTH (Auckland). Separated
311321 6-William Roy ILLINGWORTH (1.1.1993 N Shore,Auckland)
[31132 5-Jody Pam HASLAM (29.9.1971 Auckland)]
m2 sp-Reg
[3113]:
m2 24.7.1997 Mount Albert Memorial Hall, Auckland sp-Alexander Te Aroha
ROLLINSON (b .12.1952 Napier) Coachdriver for TTL.
32 2-Sylvia Elizabeth HALL (1880 Auckland-1.2.1952 Auckland)
In the birthday book c1888 of 646 of
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kitwithers/rathbone/rathbone.html
her birthday is April 29. Schoolteacher when she married.
Obit. ex 1215 via KT: FARRAR On Feb 7, 1952 (suddenly) at a private hospital
Sylvia dearly loved wife of James FARRAR 10 Crete Ave, Takapuna & loved mother
of Marjory (Mrs BREGMEN, Te Mata), Ethel (Mrs TRAYES, Pt Chevalier), Dorothy
(Mrs CARMICHAEL, Herne Bay), & the late Arthur; aged 70 yrs. Private service
will be held at Arthur HOLMES & Sons Chapel cr McColl St & Khyber Pass at
1030am tomorrow Sat. funeral then leaving for Purewa Cemetery.
Sylvia & dau’r Ethel supported the Leper Appeal.
"Clevedon 27.7.1913. Dear Eve, Mum has told me your news. This is to wish you
every happiness in your future life. This picture reminds me a little of you.
x many happy returns of your birthday. Love Sylvie" - from Vera.
familysearch ID L2G7-TZ6
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m 17.9.1906 at Bombay,Auckland sp-James FARRAR (c1877-1.12.1960 Auckland) Died
at 82. Married at Fern Nook, "house of father of bride, Park Road,Auckland" ex
m. cert. ex 1215 via KT: she was 25, schoolteacher spinster b Auckland dr
of Henry HALL engineer & Laura Elizabeth nee RATHBONE; he was 28 storekeeper,
bachelor b Auckland son of John FARRAR storekeeper & Elizabeth nee HODGE;
witnessed by his father, Bombay, & [33] Florence H HALL, Auckland.
He was living with Ethel [322] at Point Chevalier when he died.
He was the son of John FARRAR (-20.3.1912 Bombay aged 71) of Auckland, and
Elizabeth Jane nee HODGE. His father John was a wealthy merchant in the Bombay
Hills, owning a store, a bus-run, and so on. When their only son Arthur [324]
died in 1938, they were living at 86 Taumata Rd, Owairaka.
4 children: Marjory, Ethel, Dorothy and Arthur. Sylvia and James:
c1918 Standing L to R: 321 Marjory, 322 Ethel; sitting L to R: 323 Dorothy, 324 Arthur.
322 Ethel, 321 Marjory, 323 Dorothy
At the beach Standing L to R: Marjory with husband
Herb, unknown boy; Sitting L to R:324 Arthur,322 Ethel or 323 Dorothy.
Jane GARRETT 3215 has their marriage certificate.
Are these Arthur FARRAR bc1913, Sylvia FARRAR nee HALL
b 1880, her husbandJ ames FARRAR bc1877? & a seated female. The card is addressed to Miss Vera HALL c/0 Mrs FARRAR, Avondale, & reads 'Love from all'
FamilySearch ID L2G7-T8M
321 3-Marjorie FARRAR (2.9.1907 Clevedon, South Auckland-12.5.1964
Te Mata) She did a B.A. from Auckland University. She taught at Pakau Swamp
area near Hamilton where she developed asthma. Moved to Te Mata where she
taught and married. (Until c1988 there was a store & Post Office there.)
`When she came down here she had a brand new Model A, one of the first cars
in the district. It was a bit of a standing joke here that none of the
teachers got out of here without getting married.' -3211. Obituary in Herald.
She also taught at Wairoa South School 1934-35.
323 Dorothy? and 321 Marjorie.
Marjorie in graduation dress - from Vera's collection, held by KW.
FamilySearch ID K4JC-T8T
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m 5.10.1935 at All Souls Anglican, Clevedon, south Auckland sp-Herbert Norman
BREGMEN (9.1.1906 Hamilton-1986 Te Mata) They farmed at Te Mata, RD 1,
Raglan. The children all won championships for their calves and yearlings. They
all had their own horses, went to ponyclub & competed in gymnkanas (horse
events with dressage, racing,bending,jumping, egg & spoon races on horseback &
steeplechase). The BREGMENs are 3rd generation farmers. They had 5 children:
Graeme, Elizabeth, Lynette, Arthur and Jane. After Marjorie died he married
2.9.1966 at Hamilton to a widow, Dorothy W BUCHANAN nee GLEN (1918
Christchurch) living in
*1996: 21 Cliff St, Raglan, Waikato. ph 07 825 8296.
3232 Liz, 3214 Arthur, 321h Herb, 3213 Anne, 3211 Graeme.
FamilySearch ID KDST-SPY.
NB For more on the BREGMEN tree back to George BREGMEN (born 1814), contact
Elizabeth & Glenn MORRIS Glenn.Morris@xtra.co.nz (2001).
3211 4-Graeme Herbert BREGMEN (7.1.1937 Hamilton-10.6.2002) Farmer.
…………………………..
m 27.8.1961 at Te Mata sp-(Christena Ivy) Hazel GIVEN (Hamilton)
`We've known each other most of our lives, born & bred in the district;
married & shifted to a small dairy farm on Mangatawhiri Road. We're still
here 35 years later.'
* 1995: Mangatawhiri Road, RD1, Raglan. (Drive towards Te Mata then turn R.)
Ph/fax 07 825 6891. Ask me for a copy of their BREGMEN tree.
32111 5-Warren Graeme BREGMEN (15.5.1961 Hamilton)
* 1995-2001: 47a Livingstone Ave, Hamilton ph 07 847 9917
m 7.2.1998 sp-Catherine DUFFY
321111 6-Taya BREGMEN (15.8.1999 Hamilton)
321112 6-Dylan BREGMEN ( .10.2000 Hamilton)
32112 5-name removed on request 8.10.2007.
32113 5-Karen Ivy BREGMEN (3.7.1963 Raglan) Was Asst Mgr
of Liquorking in Wanganui.
m 7.2.1987 at parents' home in Te Mata sp-Bruce BURROUGHS (S Island). Meat
inspector. 1996: 64 Thomson St, Cambridge ph 07 823 0908
* 2001: Eucalyptus Av, Chartwell, Hamilton tel 07 853 8335
321131 6-Sarah Christena BURROUGHS (16.12.1994 Wanganui)
321132 6-Emma Marjory BURROUGHS (.7.1996 Cambridge)
32114 5-Rochelle Marjorie BREGMEN (6.5.1971 Hamilton)
Did a BA in Speech & Language Therapy at Cantabury. Lived in Auckland in 1995.
Now on 2 year working holiday in England.
m 29.1.1999 Hamilton sp-Matthew PARSONS (London)
*2001: 94 Oakdale Rd, Hillsborough, Auckland tel 09 624 5594
3212 4-Elizabeth Marjorie BREGMEN (7.2.1938 Hamilton) Now
kindergarten teaching again after 30 years farming. She has the family bible
and marriage certificate of 32 & some old photos. (The photos under 32*
here are from her. They were scanned as tif files then later converted to jpg.)
m 9.3.1960 at the Anglican Church, Te Mata sp-Donald Curtis NEWTON (25.7.1938
Hamilton) They farmed at Te Mata, Raglan. They enjoy boating.
Until 2000 they lived at 79 Newcastle Rd, Dunsdale, Hamilton.
*2000-1: 18 Summerhaven Place, Ohauiti, Tauranga; tel 07 5444 286
32121 5-Andrea Elizabeth NEWTON (8.5.1961 Raglan)
m .12.1979 at Te Mata sp-Kim DENT (Christchurch)
*1995: RD 10, Frankton, Hamilton ph 07 829 8557
321211 6-Nicholas DENT (15.6.1980 Hamilton)
Partner Nikki. Baby due .2.2000.
321212 6-Jessica Elizabeth DENT (7.12.1983 Hamilton)
32122 5-Fiona NEWTON (14.8.1962 Raglan)
m sp-David MARTIN
They married on her parents farm at Te Mata.
*1995: 24 Waitui Grove, Mt Maunganui ph 07 575 9289
321221 6-Joshua David MARTIN (17.2.1990 Tauranga)
321222 6-Hannah Elizabeth MARTIN (23.12.1991 Tauranga)
32123 5-Julie Victoria NEWTON (18.4.1965 Hamilton)
*2001: moving to Tauranga
m 11.3.1989 at Hamilton sp-Mark D CONGDON. Separated.
* 1996: 6 Kohekohe Pl, Hamilton ph 07 849 0338
321231 6-Danielle CONGDON (3.8.1991 Hamilton)
321232 6-Brodie CONGDON (21.2.1994 Hamilton)
32124 5-Jacqueline Elizabeth NEWTON (3.12.1971 Hamilton)
* 2000-2001: Assistant Manager, Flight Centre, Hamilton.
3213 4-(Lynette) Anne BREGMEN (18.1.1940 Hamilton)
* 1995-2001: 7 Player Place, Christchurch
m Hamilton sp-"Dick" Barry Cecil John TURPIN (1.12.1935 Christchurch
-24.2.2001 Christchurch)
32131 5-Louise Anne TURPIN (28.10.1969 Wellington) Born
at St Helen's Hospital. Worked at Kenepuru Hospital, Porirua, 1995.
m 8.9.2000 Tralee,County Kerry,Ireland sp-Simon CLIFFORD (19.1.1915 Tralee,
County Kerry,Ireland) *2000: London
32132 5-Sarah Jane TURPIN (4.9.1971 Wellington) Born at
Kenepuru Hospital, Porirua. 1994/95: holidaying in Germany. She has the family
bible of James and Sylvia FARRAR [32].
*2000: Christchurch <!-- to marry .1.2002) -->
32133 5-`Kate' Katrina Mary TURPIN (13.8.1973 Auckland)
Born at National Womens Hospital. In 1995 in Perth on a working holiday.
2000 in Taiwan.
* 2001: teaching English in London.
………………………………….
3214 4-Arthur Farrar BREGMEN (10.6.1942 Hamilton) After fencing
and shearing he took over his farther's farm (sheep and cattle). Then changed
to dairy farming. Later moved to Maramarua doing sheep and drystock.
m 3.9.1965 sp-Katheryne Anne TURNER (9.12.1946 Hamilton) Her hobby of plants
has turned into a commercial nursery operating from home.
1985 Valley View, Kauroa & Cottage Ponds Rd.
*2000-1:Maxwell Road, RD1 Pokeno, Maramarua (midway between Thames & Pukekohe)
ph 09 232 5870
32141 5-Denise Marie BREGMEN (9.4.1967 Raglan) Nurse at
Hamilton Hospital. She does education for the Intensive Care Unit.
m sp-David Jonathan HURST (31.12.1965 Hamilton)
Refrigeration engineer. They have 2 dogs and 2 cats.
*2000-1: 98 Otonga Valley Road, RD 1,Raglan ph 07 8255 171
32142 5-Michelle Anne BREGMEN (14.6.1969 Hamilton)
*2000-1: Maramarua.
m sp-Brian DAUBNEY Separated.
*1996: 98 Storey Ave, Hamilton. He has since moved.
321421 6-Matthew Brian DAUBNEY (16.6.1993 Hamilton)
321422 6-Scott DAUBNEY (25.6.1995 Hamilton)
32143 5-Scott Arthur BREGMEN (11.1.1972 Hamilton)
*1995-2001: lives in a house on his parents' farm.
3215 4-Jane Jasmin Mary BREGMEN (20.11.1949 Hamilton)
When her mother died she was about 14 and often went to stay with 322 Ethel,
Billy, Stephen and John. Registered nurse. She has some old family photos.
m 17.6.1972 at St Peter's Cathedral, Hamilton sp-Peter Brian GARRETT
(10.2.1947 Wellington) They run their own insurance brokerage, Garrett
Insurance Brokers. He is uncle to Heather wife of 34111 below. The family
skied in Denver & Canada in 2000.
*1996-2001: 44a Parr Terace, Milford, Auckland 9 ph 09 410 6837
32151 5-David Logan GARRETT (29.3.1979 Lower Hutt) B Comm (Auckland Univ.)
32152 5-Andrew James GARRETT (7.9.1982 Lower Hutt) Doing a B Comm at Ak.Univ.
32153 5-Robert Peter GARRETT (23.7.1986 Takapuna,Auckland) At Westlake Boys,
school ski champion in 2000.
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322 3-Ethel FARRAR (5.7.1909-14.3.1985 Auckland) She always took flowers to
Purewa Cemetery to her mother Sylvia's grave. Her preserving jar is still there
on the HALL grave. In 1960 they lived at 27 Tasman Ave., Point Chevalier,
Auckland. FamilySearch ID L2G7-THS
m 4.11.1933 Auckland sp-William "Billy" Hoskin TRAYES (12.10.1908-20.10.1990
Whangaparoa) (He is 11 on the TRAYES family at 11. below.) Brother of Ernest
who married [44] below.) FamilySearch ID L2G7-R6Z.
They married at her parents' home at Clevedon. He used to sail his
launch up the Clevedon River. They later lived at 57 The Strand, Arkles Bay,
Whangaparoa. Billy's parents home was at 42 Cheltenham Rd, near Cheltenham
Beach, Devonport. Kay [3222-sp] writes "It's still there, the same stone
entrances, two storied, cream with green roof and the name Whakarua (breeze
from the sea) carved into the stone entrances." His parents William and Sarah
are buried in Devonport.
John standing by the stone entrance to Whakarua in 2002. from Kay.
3221 4-Stephen William TRAYES (31.3.1938 Auckland) Godson of 324 Arthur
FARRAR. Motor mechanic. Interests include trail biking, 4 wheel
driving, kangaroo shooting, diving in the islands. He crewed on an
offshore trailer yacht in WA.
</pre><A HREF="steve1a.jpg"> Photo of Steve from North Harbour News 24.6.2005:</A><pre>
`Kayak king sharing his expertise: "Steve TRAYES has 21 kayaks
ranging from 3 to 6 m. He made them at his home in Arkles Bay & is now building
more. His passion for the craft began more than 50 years ago & has made him the
area's undisputed kayak king. Now at 66 [he] plans to share his expertise with
youngsters at Whangaparaoa College... The pride of [his] collection is a 5m
model he made in 1970 ... the 1st ocean-going kayak launched in NZ... - ex KT.
</pre><A HREF="steve2a.jpg">
Steve et al from North Harbour News 18.11.2005 p3 `All at sea in a kayak': </A><pre>
"... Steve TRAYES 66 began building kayaks more than 50 years ago & now has
more than 20 at his home in Arkles Bay.
He accepted a N Harbour News suggestion he share his skills with youngsters at
the nearby college... he helped form the college's Kayak Building Club..." ex KT .
* 2000: 57 Arkles Strand, Arkles Bay, Whangaparoa ph 09 424 8331
m1 1970 at Henderson, Auckland sp-Norma Ofa INOKE (1946 Vaini, Tonga)
She lives in Australia and has remarried.
32211 5-Nerissa Ann TRAYES (13.9.1975 Port Headland, West Australia) In 2004
she is working as a Home Package Consultant/licensed real estate agent for a
construction company on the Gold Coast Australia and is currently enrolled as a
part time student at the Southbank Institute of TAFE for a diploma in
Engineering (Computer aided Drafting). Nerissa travelled Australia and lived at
Yulara (Ayers rock) before settling for 6 years in Melbourne and meeting her
husband. She has interests in arts and cultures. She has interests in arts and
cultures. Nerissa and Roby have a beautiful 4 year old daughter
#2004: mobile 0422 194 314 #2005: PO Box 1913, South Hedland, WA 6722.
………………
m in Fiji sp-Robert PALE (10.7.77 Auckland) Roby was raised in Melbourne
Australia by his Tongan parents. He has played rugby union since he was 7; he
played for the state of Victoria and Box Hill Rugby Union club. He has played
against Scotland, Shrilanka, Australian Barbarians, and New Zealand Maoris
and in Hong Kong for the Victorian All Stars in the Honk Kong 10s. In 2004 Roby
is working as an electrician on the Gold Coast Varsity Lakes. Roby no longer
plays Rugby, however has taken up Thai Kick Boxing at there friends gym,
the Boon Chu gym on the Gold Coast.
*2004 Robina, Gold Coast QLD, Australia.
3221 11 6-(Mekika) Isabella PALE (3.6.2000 Box Hill, Melbourne) 2004: she
loves to talk, dance and is very popular at kindy with all her friends. She
goes to tennis lessons, loves riding her scooter and wants to join the Boon Chu
gym with her dada!
32212 5-Steven John "Johny" TRAYES (22.1.1977 Auckland) He runs his own soft
furnishings business on the Gold Coast Australia that furnishes homes locally
and internationally. He has been in one movie as a fighter because of his
martial arts skills. He won the light weight division naturals in the Mr
Australia body building competition. 2000: Burley Heads, Queensland, Australia.
*2004 Southport, Gold Coast QLD, Australia
[3221 4-Stephen William TRAYES (31.3.1938 Auckland)]:
m2 28.4.1988 Port Hedland, Western Australia sp-Carol CAIBANANG (28.7.1952
Bokitnon, Mindanao, Phillipines) Port Hedland is 1200m N of Perth.
3222 4-John Arthur TRAYES (11.2.1941 Auckland) was a mechanic then trained as
a teacher and taught at Dargaville, Kelston, Orewa North & Whangaparoa Primary
Schools. In 2000 he is a teacher at Whangaparoa.
m 25.6.1983 Whangaparaoa Baptist Church sp-Kay Elizabeth HENDERSON
(30.1.1950 Auckland-26.4.2010) Taught at Wellsford, Dairy Flat, Sunnynook &
Whangaparoa Primary Schools. She and John and their children have
scrubbed clean the HALL plinth (monument) at Purewa Cemetery "so that
all the inscriptions can be read. John has made special flower
containers for all our gravesites... On 3 of the 4 sides are family
inscriptions to Laura, Henry [3] and Harry [35] HALL; and there also
lie the ashes of Flo [33]... there is a grave site very near
containing the remains of Sylvia [32], James [32h] and Arthur [324]
FARRAR and the ashes of Ethel [322] and Billy [322h] TRAYES... The
HALL plinth is in need of a lot of repair, much of the concrete
surround is broken and a huge pohutukawa branch is growing through."
Kay taught Tracy HASLAM [31131] above at Sunnynook Primary School "an
absolutely delightful pupil". 3 weeks after a letter from their US
cousin and researcher on the TRAYES family, Donal TRAYES email
wb4cvh@ithink.net , "we had a phone call from NEXT magasine (that)
we'd won the Royal Doulton Trip to London Competition I'd entered in
the magazine William and Catherine gave me for Mothers Day! We
thought fast, arranged finance and decided to extend the trip prize to
6 weeks and to take the children ..." They visited the TRAYES
ancestral home in St Teath, Cornwall and their TRAYES cousins in
Saltash,Cornwall. They also traveled close to Messines, Belgium and
saw many WW1 ANZAC cemeteries in the Valley of the Somme. In London
they stayed close to Drayton Gardens where Harry would visit his uncle
Jack HALL and cousin Margery HALL in WW1. She also worked at the Regent Palace
Hotel in Piccadilly where Harry used to go or stay: (see his letter of
9.12.1916 at harry_to_ve ra.txt ) LOST:
The top photo shows Kay,John,Katherine & John 2002.</A><pre>
The others are of William with the White Cup for outstanding academic
achievement at Orewa Colege 2001; & Kathereine in 2000 age 12 with Prime
Minister Helen CLARK at the Aotea Centre: 2 of her art works were selected for
the Auckland Intermediate Schools Art Exhibition.
John & Kay were given a Good Neighbour Award for their hampers etc to locals
in distress: - see letter to Coaster (paper) 19.2.2003.
* 2000-2009: 60 McKenzie Ave, Arkles Bay, Whangaparoa 0932, ph 09 424 3132
email trayes.family@xtra.co.nz
…………………………………………………
32221 5-William John TRAYES (30.3.1984 Auckland) 2007 Bach. of Business.
Duke of Edinburgh Camp and School Cert (top in maths for his school) 2000.
In 2001 he got the White Cup for Outstanding Academic Achievement for Year 12
at Orewa College. 2003: enrolled at Massey University, Albany for a Degree in
Business Studies, goes to karate twice a week and is doing a fire-fighting
course. He went on the Gold Duke of Edinburgh tramp in the Kaimanawa Ranges
in the April holidays- a very strenuous tramp. June 2004 awarded the ASB
Scholarship at Massey University. The Coaster 1.2.2006: "2 future leaders
selected from HBC: ... Wm TRAYES .. will travel to Anakiwa .. to take part in
the 21 day Southern Cross course that aims to build an .. network of young
leaders..." In June 2006 he completed his double degree then spent 2 months at
Camp America & a Salvn Army Camp in Maine.
2008: missionary work, teaching English & helping out in villages in China,
Mongolia & Tibet. Diploma of Teaching. Gold Duke of Edinburgh award.
m 2014 sp-Caralise They are living close to John.
32222 5-Katherine Elizabeth TRAYES (25.2.1988 Auckland)
2000: in the local show "King Arthur". 2001 at Pinehurst College. Two pieces
of her art were selected for the Auckland Intermediate Art Exhibition at
Aotea Centre in November. She was photographed there with PM Helen CLARK.
In 2001 she got 10 awards at Pinehurst Prizegiving. She has had several local
exhibitions. She had art by her commissioned by the Whangaparaea School Dental
Therapist when she was 10! 2003: she had 10 days in Japan with a group from
Pinehurst School visiting the new sister school in the country-side
out of Tokyo. She had the honour of being chosen to do the welcome
speech (in Japanese of course). Her Award subjects were Art and Graphics &
Design.
2006: Katherine did the Orewa Women's Duathlon & began a Bachelor of Art &
Design at Massey, Albany.
2008: lead singer at church.
2014: Katherine is very busy with her graphic design / art business and is very
involved in her church leading the worship music team.
323 3-Dorothy Sylvia FARRAR (6.7.1914 Auckland) Enjoyed golf.
* 2000: in a rest home, Rotorua. ph 07 348 3233
FamilySearch ID L2GZ-N89
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m .11.1940 at Auckland sp-(Andrew) Rowan (Alexander) CARMICHAEL (22.1.1914
Dunblane?, Scotland - .2.1985 Rotorua) They married at Gardner Street
Presbyterian Church, Epsom with a wedding breakfast at One Tree Hill.
FamilySearch ID LT5F-S96
The marriage of Rowan and 323 Dorothy. LOST PHOTO.
Xmas at Dorothy's at Mt Albert, the year of the Tangiwai disaster.
Thanks to Kay and John for identifying these 15 people:
"Marge BREGMEN is taking the photo.
Taken 1953 at the CARMICHAEL's at 18 Springleigh Ave, Mt Albert. The only
change to the house is a deck on the right hand side. (John and Kay drove
past in 2001.)
John aged 12 sitting in front holding his champion spaniel Negra.
All the TRAYES, BREGMEN and CARMICHAEL families are there.
At back- Graeme BREGMEN, Arthur BREGMEN (small face sitting at back),
Anne BREGMEN, Elizabeth BREGMEN and Andrew CARMICHAEL.
Middle- Billy TRAYES, Robert CARMICHAEL (sitting by his mother), Dorothy
CARMICHAEL, Herbie BREGMEN and James FARRAR (in suit).
Front- Stephen TRAYES, Ethel TRAYES, Jane BREGMEN sitting, John TRAYES sitting
with dog and Rowan CARMICHAEL standing at right."
3231 4-Andrew Alexander CARMICHAEL (22.7.1943 Auckland)
* 2000: near Te Awamutu.
m sp-? Separated.
* 1996: 14 Shetland St, Glen Eden ph 09 818 5625
32311 5-Michelle Louise CARMICHAEL (3.11.1965)
32312 5-Ian CARMICHAEL (7.10.1967)
32313 5-Glen CARMICHAEL (17.5.1969)
32314 5-Andrew Bruce CARMICHAEL (21.9.1972)
3232 4-Robert James CARMICHAEL (27.9.1946 Auckland -
c20.12.1995 Auckland) He lived at 9 Sprott Rd, Kohimaramara, Auckland.
He was CEO of the Anglican Trust Board in Auckland. A photo of him is on p97
of Metro magazine April 1992 in the article "The people of Meadowbank vs the
Anglican Church".
m1 1.5.1971 Papatoetoe sp-Louise Cecily MARKS (4.2.1952 Auckland)
Daughter of Peter Barnseby MARKS and Phyllis Ester nee PETERS.
She remarried Murray L EWANS. She works for Telecom.
*2000: Unit 4, 47 Moana Rd, One Tree Hill, Auckland ph 09 636 3554
or 025 244 6007
32321 5-John Robert CARMICHAEL (18.10.1974 Auckland)
He and Peter have the family bible of [323] Dorothy and Rowan.
*2000: at home
32322 5-Peter Rowan CARMICHAEL (8.8.1977 Auckland)
*2000: ph 09 623 7151
[3232 4-Robert James CARMICHAEL (1946-1995)]:
m2 Auckland sp-Lesley No children. Died in a scuba accident in the
Mokohinau Islands off Whangarei coast.
[3232 4-Robert James CARMICHAEL (1946-1995)]:
m3 Auckland sp-Judy A (-c1988) In 1995 phone book at 8 Piccadilly
Place, Kohimaramara. In 1996 at 9 Sprott Rd, Kohimaramara, Auckland.
*2000: Matakana
323221 5-Jamie Elizabeth CARMICHAEL (10.2.1988 Auckland)
323222 5-Robert Paul CARMICHAEL (13.9.1989 Auckland)
324 3-Arthur James FARRAR (c1913-24.10.1938 Auckland) From his parents'
family bible: "Our only son, so loved and respected by all - Oh God,
Thou tookest our son our loved son - Teach us to say - `Thy will be done'.
Oct 24,1938 at 6.15pm after a months sickness - a germ caught 6 months before,
settled on kidneys undiscovered till too late. Died courageously, loving us,
joking between pains - our son Arthur `noble,good'. (Hypernephroma). Interred
at Purewa." He died at his parents home. On 8.2.1939 his mother wrote "On the
night of Monday 6 Feb '39 I dreamed of Arthur as his spirit was leaving his
body - I saw his eyes again, as then, full of astonishment, - I looked where
he was looking & lo - a green field of soft luscious grass of such a wonderful
green - not a break - on the right side beautful restful trees - in front
softly undulating hills - there was a peace, a beauty about those hills that
words of mine cannot describe." There is a bronze plaque for him downhill of
the HALL plinth.
Obits ex 3215 via KT:
.FARRAR On Oct 24 at his parents' residence 86 Taumata Rd, Owairaka son of
James & Sylvia FARRAR late of Clevedon & loved br of Marjorie, Ethel & Dorothy
aged 25. Service will be held at the above address 11am tomorrow Wed. funeral
leaving afterward for Purewa Cem. Friends please accept this intimation.
.FARRAR In loving memory of dear Arthur who passed away Oct 24 1938. Deep in
our hearts a memory is kept of one we loved & will never forget. - Inserted by
Dorothy [323] & Rowan.
.FARRAR In loving memory of dear Arthur who passed away Oct 24 1938. Deep in
our hearts a memory is kept of one we loved & will never forget. - Inserted by
Dorothy [323] & Rowan.
.FARRAR In loving memory of Arthur who passed away on Oct 24 1938. Ever
remembered. - Inserted by Ethel [322], Billie [322-sp] little godson Stephen
[3221] & John [3222].
.FARRAR In loving memory of Arthur who passed away on Oct 24 1938. A day of
remembrance. - Inserted by Eileen & Mr & Mrs ROWLANDS. [His fiancee?]
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33 2-Florence Henrietta Rathbone HALL (1882 Auckland-13.2.1972 North Shore?)
Harry mentions her a lot in harry_to_vera.txt For example on May 16th 1917:
"How is FLO? I hear from her often. She sent me some lovely letters and photos.
Tell her I often write and am doing so again tomorrow. Yes, I remember the
house at the corner of VAUXHALL ROAD and V. TERR."
Enquiries@purewa.co.nz noted 25.10.2005: "the ashes of Florence Henrietta
WILSON were interred with Laura HALL on 12th April 1972. No other burials or
interments have taken place in either of the plots. Placement of a plaque at
this site is permitted..." Block F 38, Purewa Cemetery.
www.purewa.co.nz gives Florence Henrietta WILSON Date of Service 15.2.1972
Funeral Director H Morris Funeral Services, P O Box 36-273,Northcote,AUCKLAND
Ashes Disposal Interred 12 Apr 1972 Block F 38 Plot 105.
familysearch ID L2G7-TV3
……………………………..
m1 20.10.1909 at her father's home in Park Rd West,Auckland sp-George BRAMBLEY
(1885 Auckland-1951) by William Gray DIXON, MA. Witnesses were her sister
Eveline and Archibald HASSINAPE?, Waimaremoana?, Arawa St. Divorced 25.8.1928.
(He is 567 on the BRAMBLEY tree at 8 below.) Their wedding certificate gives
their occupations as dressmaker and glass beveller, and that of her father
Henry as engineer, Park Road West, mother Laura Elizabeth HALL nee RATHBONE.
Witnesses were Archibald HARRANAPE?, warehouseman of Arawa st & Eveline Maud
HALL [ID 34 below], teacher, Park Road. Married by William gray DIXON.
The birth certificate of their daughter Betty in 1914 lists their address as
Buchanan St, Devonport.
Rates Records show Henry HALL owned a dwelling on the corner of Vauxhall Tce
and Vauxhall Rd occupied by Geo BRAMLEY (sic). -Kay T 2002.
The death certificate in 1918 of their son Leslie lists his occupation as
soldier. The marriage was dissolved by degree absolute 25.8.1922.
FamilySearch ID LT5X-BWH gives parents as William & Sarah Jane
& 11 siblings.
"Left to right Mr ANDREWS, George ANDREWS & Corrie, Mr MARTIN,
Mrs ANDREWS, Florrie, Edie, Aunt Edward" in Vera's handwriting, held by KW.
Presumably Florrie is 33, but who are the others?
………………………….
331 3-Raymond Hall "Buster" BRAMBLEY (15 or 20.11.1911 Auckland
-.8.1980) Won a scholarship to Kings College, Auckland. Lost a leg in WW2.
Law clerk. Listed as shipping clerk on both marriage certificates.
m1 13.9.1939 St Peter's Church,Takapuna sp-Gloria Kathleen TUCKER (Wellington)
daughter of Edwin George TUCKER, clerk and Christina May nee COLE of Takapuna.
Father glassworker. Witnesses Wm T MECKLE, Devonport, merchant and CR MURPHY,
Devonport, married. Divorced 14.3.1947.
m2 11.7.1947 Registrar's office, Auckland sp-Audrey Lucey PRESTON (1922
Christchurch-1993 Auckland) daughter of Aubrey PRESTON salesman and Myrtle
Elizabeth nee DEMPSTER of Christchurch.
She lived at 82 Tautari St, Orakei, Auckland.
3311 4-Anne Elizabeth BRAMBLEY (10.7.1948 Auckland) B.A. in Sociology.
In 1989 Anne sent me photocopies of photos of 331, 331-sp, 33111, 33112, 33112-sp,
3312 332. Could you please scan & email them to me?
m 1977 sp-Phillip James THORNLEY (9.10.1945 Wellington)
* 1999: 22 Northboro Rd, Takapuna, North Shore City 1309 ph ?
33111 5-Robert Edward THORNLEY (11.3.1978)
Desktop publishing for North Shore Times.
33112 5-Alexander George THORNLEY (29.11.1980)
Doing a conservation course in 1999.
3312 4-(Marilyn) Rae BRAMBLEY (6.10.1950 Auckland) Diploma
of Fine Arts. School teacher in Devonport. In 1982 she lived at Stanley Bay.
In 1983 she taught at Great Barrier Island.
m 1985 sp-Robert HOWLAND
* 1995: 14 Rosecamp Rd, Beachhaven, Birkenhead, Auckland ph ?
332 3-"Betty" Joan Elizabeth BRAMBLEY b 15.9.1914 Devonport, Auckland
d 21.9.2006 Auckland. Her birth cert. gives her parents as George BRAMBLEY
glass beveller, 29, Auckland & Florence Henrietta nee HALL m 20.10.1909
Auckland. Betty lived at 1 Leander St., Bayswater, Auckland 9 then
57 Norwood Road, Bayswater.
* 2000: Apartment 211/14 Oteha Valley Rd., Mayfair Retirement Village,
Albany, Browns Bay, Auckland.
m St Mary's Cathedral, Parnell Auckland sp-Stuart REID d c31.12.1984 Auckland
3321 4-Peter Stuart REID (26.8.1937 Crowes Nest,Sydney-1990 Auckland)
Surveyor. Worked in Tonga, Malaysia, Jamaica & Hongkong. He was
made a Fellow of the Royal Geographic Society for his cadastral survey of
Tonga at age 22. In 1983 he was in charge of 500 men for the British
Government in Hongkong, with his own chauffeur. Died of a heart attack.
m1 sp-Rita COCKER (1940 Nukualofa,Tonga-1994 Hongkong)
Greatgranddaughter of Willie COCKER, first British consul to Tonga, and Joyce.
Divorced. Insurance broker in Hongkong.
She has ID 2135 in the COCKER family at 6. of
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kitwithers/tonga/tonga.html
33211 5-Geoffrey Stuart REID (1963 Takapuna,Auckland)
Educated at Kings Prep. & Kings College, Auckland. Graduated from Westminister
College Hotel Management, London.
* 2000: 26 Hawkes Access Rd, Kaukopakopa, near Helensville. ph 09 420 5662
m 11.6.1994 Koh Samui Island,Thailand sp-Anne FRAIN (19.10.1964 Scunthorpe,
England)
2 children.
* 1995: Hongkong
332111 6-Benjamin Peter REID (26.9.1992 Hongkong)
332112 6-Lelani Victoria Rita REID (8.3.1994 Hongkong)
33212 5-Angela Marie REID (2.10.1966 Kuala Lipis,Malaysia)
* 1995: London
m1 at Palm Springs, USA sp-Martin HARWOOD (England) 1 child. Divorced
332121 6-Blaize HARWOOD male (c1989 USA)
[33212 5-Angela Marie REID (2.10.1966 Malaysia)]
m2 at London sp-David (England)
[33212 5-Angela Marie REID (2.10.1966 Malaysia)]
m3 sp-?
332122 6-Dominic (.10.99 Mauritius)
3322 4-David Stuart REID (23.5.1939 Mossvale, NSW)
A chartered accountant. He was an accountant for Comalco. He also had a
milkbar and bike shop. A marathon runner. One of "the Turtles" - a group of
older runners. In 1982 he lived at 47 Mayfair Cresc., Mairangi Bay. In 1994-99
in Kerikeri.
* 1995: 385 Beach Rd, Mairangi Bay, Auckland ph 09 420 5823 (in 2000)
m sp-Alison LOWE divorced
33221 5-Michael Dan REID (20.11.1962 N Shore)
Was living near Mt Ruapehu.
* c/ Alison LOWE, 5 Knights Close, Knights Rd, Rothesay Bay, Auckland
df sp-Lisa HARFORD
* 2000: at Piha, Auckland with partner Peter BARNES
332211 6-Zacaray REID or Zarak HARFORD-REID (c1988)
33222 5-Mary REID (16.12.1963 N Shore) B.A., Ll.B.
Placement coordinator at Workbridge. She works at Panmure Basin getting deaf
people jobs. No children.
m 17.2.1995 sp-Des
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3323 4-Susan (Mary) REID (19.10.1949 Napier) She was the Under 17 national
singles & doubles tennis champion in 1965.
Susan represented NZ in the Australian Junior Squash Tournament in 1964.
Travel agent.
She has photos of 3 Henry & Laura HALL. She sold her land at Silverdale and
bought a block of land at Waitoki.
* 2014: 31 Hawkes Access Road, RD 1, Silverdale (4 km W of Dairy Flat, 35 m N
of Auckland) Tel 09 420 5661
Work: Reid & Yates Travel,3 Gibraltar Cr.,Box 37103,Parnell, Auckland
ph 09 304 2724 or 09 358 2220 or 021 210 2067 www.reidyates.travel
sue@reidyates.travel
333 3-Leslie William BRAMBLEY b 1918 Hamilton d 14.6.1918 Hamilton aged
2 weeks of exhaustion, abscess on neck, father a soldier. Buried by E COWIE,
Anglican on 15.6.1918, Hamilton West.
[33 2-Florence Henrietta HALL (1882 Auckland-13.2.1972 North Shore?)]:
m2 30.11.1928 Auckland sp-George "Dooley" Frederick WILSON (1879 Freetown,
Sierra Leone) of Devonport, son of George Henry WILSON, military officer,
and Annie Francis ROBERTSON. Their wedding certificate lists their occupations
as dressmaker and agent, her parents as Henry HALL retired engineer,
Laura Elizabeth HALL nee RATHBONE, his parents as George Henry WILSON,
military officer, & Annie Francis nee ROBERTSON, divorced decree absolute
21.8.1922 from her former husband, the marriage by registrar, and the witnesses
as Auckland civil servants VP WALLER and F NEWMARCH.
34 2-Eveline "Evie" Maud HALL b 28.7.1883 Auckland d 22.1.1940 Devonport
at 53 (so b 1887) crem. 23.2 Waikumete cem., of 33 Tainui Rd, Devonport.
In the birthday book c1888 of 646 of
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kitwithers/rathbone/rathbone.html
her birthday is "Evelyne M HALL July 28". In 1897 she & Harry [35] were at
Remuera School & among the 25000 Auckland children who signed the
congratulatory address to Queen Vic on her Diamond Jubilee, 60 years as queen;
also TRAYES at Coromandel school & FARRARs at Bombay School signed. - KT.
A violinist. Studied for school-teaching. As a witness to the first wedding
20.10.1909 of her sister Florence she is listed as unmarried, teacher, Park
Road (by the Auckland Domain). They had a home orchestra on Sunday nights with
2 other violinists. `A great mother'.
On the back of this photo of a child c 5 is written "Eve", - from Vera.
A photo of Evie that she sent to Vera signed
"Your old pal Evie"; on the back: "Vera Hall 6/2/14"
A portrait of Evie - from Vera.
Evie? & her mother's nurse? - from Vera.
A photo of her mother Laura HALL taken at the same time.
familysearch ID L2G7-TVN
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m sp-Ernest Victor TRAYES (1890 Coromandel-c Sept. 1973 Devonport)
Brother of Billy who married [322] above.
He was a stone mason and contractor. He helped build the obelisk at One Tree
Hill "in respect for the Maori race", paid for by John Logan CAMPBELL. (It has
a plaque giving Thomas CLEMENS as the contractor.)
The statue being hauled to the top of the obelisk.
WHICH OF THESE 3 MEN IS ERNEST?
He also built the stone circle memorial containing the battery gun in North
Head, Devonport in 1953, the memorial for the Tainui in the Devonport
waterfront & the Maori memorial near Helensville. He had his own photographic
darkroom. An excellent gymnast, coaching gymn in the 1920s in the Methodist
hall in Church St, Devonport. His father did the stonework for the circular
window in St Matthew's, Wellesley St, Auckland, a lot of church work and some
cemetery work. They lived at 33 Tainui Rd, Devonport.
Ernest & Evie TRAYES at the races?
He remarried c1951 to Jean WILLIAMSON (Dunedin). He died aged 83.
For his family, see 11. below, or go to his familysearch ID L2G7-RCV.
341 3-Peggy (Elizabeth) TRAYES (24.9.1916 Auckland) Attended
Takapuna Grammar and Auckland Business College. Lived in Upper Hutt c1952-72.
Enjoyed golf, bridge & walking. Until 2000: 220A Valley Rd, Mt Maunganui
* 2001: 77 Bayswater Village, 60 Maranui Rd, Mt Maunganui.
This photo of Peggy was taken by KT 2005. The painting is by Rae [sp of 342].
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m 25.1.1940 at Holy Trinity (C of E), Devonport sp-Roy Lambert WALKER
(12.9.1915 Auckland -.2.1993) Attended Auckland Grammar. Did accounting at
night-school. Fought in Italy in WW2 and was commissioned. Completed his
studies on returning to NZ. He was an accountant with Mobil Oil. They lived in
Devonport until 1951 then moved to Wellington, living in Moonshine Road on the
western Hutt hills. After 40 years he retired as chief auditor. They moved to
the Mount in 1972. Roy was a keen gardener. See photo of them .1.1990 "Together
for 50 years" in local paper. Here is a photo c1956:
Top L to R: 342w Rae, 342 Vic, 341 Peggy, 341h Roy,34hm2 Jean, 34h Ernest;
bottom L to R:3421 Jan,3422 Wendy,3412 Judy,3413 Evelyn,3414 Penny,3411 Bas.
Can someone pls resend it?
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3411 4-Dr Basil `Bas' Victor WALKER (20.3.1943 Devonport)
Secretary of Department of Energy (1988)-see Dominion 8.10.1988 & Evening Post
22.11.1988 (photo); Secretary of Department of Defence (1988) - see Dominion
23.11.1988; Head of Ministry of Defence (1989) -see Service, Te Awhina
Oct. 1989; Chief Executive of Ministry of Research, Science & Technology 1991;
photos p23 of Service Oct. 1990 & p18 March 1991 of Te Awhina;
CEO of Environmental Risk Management Authority (ERMA) 1997.
An excerpt from http://www.morst.govt.nz/pubs/scitech/june96.htm
End of an Era at MoRST
In April, State Services Commissioner Don Hunn announced that Dr Basil Walker, Chief Executive of the Ministry of Research, Science and Technology, is to step down from the position of Chief Executive on 5 July 1996.
Dr Walker has been in the top position since the start up of the Ministry in 1989. His term has seen the development of the Science Ministry from a `gleam in the eye' to an organisation which now has an established and important role in both the public sector and in the science system, and is recognised for the quality of its relationships and of its policy work.
The period covered by Dr Walker's term has seen the successful completion of the most sustained and fundamental reform of science in New Zealand for the past half century. In the wake of the reforms, science funding is now firmly set on a growth path, reflecting greater confidence that science investment by the Government represents value for money. This contrasts with the decline in funding of almost 25% (real dollars) which occurred during the 1980s.
Highlights of Basil Walker's period of stewardship of the Ministry have included the establishment of national priority setting for science funding and the creation of new funding instruments such as the Marsden Fund, the establishment of an underpinning information base for science and technology, the opening up of new intergovernmental science and technology relationships in the Asia Pacific region, and the development of the Office of the Chief Scientist as a focus for improving the input of science to government decision making. Recent developments have included the publication of a discussion draft of a long term strategy for science, research and technology in New Zealand (RS&T:2010) and the advancement of work on the evaluation of the investment in science and the formulation of a comprehensive technology policy.
Dr Walker's career has also included terms as the Chief Executive of what were at the time two major departments; firstly the Ministry of Energy and secondly the Ministry of Defence. Both terms involved major restructuring. In the case of the Ministry of Energy, the outcome was the formation of what were then Electricorp and Coalcorp and a relatively small policy oriented Ministry. In the case of Defence, the outcome was the division of Defence into the New Zealand Defence Force and the Ministry of Defence.
Dr Walker's early career included research and research management in what was then the DSIR (Department of Scientific and Industrial Research) and he played a major role in the development of energy projects based on Maui natural gas during the 1970s.
`While I have enjoyed every aspect of my career in the public service,' said Dr Walker, `my period at the helm in the Science Ministry has bought particular satisfaction. The opportunity to grow an organisation from nothing to maturity while simultaneously contributing to a leading edge reform has been fascinating and challenging. My personal belief in the importance of science and technology to New Zealand's future has added a further dimension to my role at the Ministry.'
Dr Walker said that his decision to step down at this time was influenced by the desirability of having a new chief executive in place prior to the next election but also reflected a judgement that the time was right to find fresh career opportunities.
`I nevertheless intend to maintain a close interest both in the science sector and in the technological development of the enterprise sector,' he said.
24.8.2022 Excerpt from interview with veteran Bob DAVIES reported to RSA Bulletin
August 2022 on serving in Malaysia and then Vietnam: "I did three years and was
asked to stay on by Maj Gen Piers REID on his appointment as CGS but I declined. My
tour as SMA was largely through the penny-pinching era and I was frustrated in not
being able to influence what was happening to soldiers' pay. The then Secretary of
Defence, Basil WALKER, had directed that the army pay structure should reflect the
now predominant neoliberal ideology. And that meant that technicians and other
trades should be paid more than those in combat trades as combat trades had no
utility in civvy street. We had people at this stage deploying to Bosnia and even
though I argued forcefully about the ones at the sharp end should be receiving a
bigger allowance than those in the rear to compensate for the disparity in pay,
that never happened. Under the old pay structure regardless of what corps you were
we all were paid the same. The military is about teams where every person's job is
vital to success on the battlefield. If you pay a trade less, you're telling
them they are not as worthy. In my opinion an unconscionable outcome of the OR pay
restructure occurred."
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m 28.1.1967 at Upper Hutt sp-Penelope Miriam BIGGAR (26.2.1945 Upper Hutt)
Lived at 10 Kenilworth Grove, Silverstream, Lower Hutt. Penny is currently
working at Brentwood, Trentham - her 25th year there!
* 2000-2001: Apt 3c, 126 Oriental Bay Parade, Oriental Bay, Wellington.
tel 04 384 3829
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34111 5-Lance Roy WALKER (31.1.1970 Cambridge, UK) Spent
1992 working for BP going around NZ with the Endeavour Team fundraising for
Whitbread. He did an Ll.B. at Victoria University, Wellington. He works
for Aim Direct, Direct Marketing Co., Wellington.
m 23.1.1993 at Upper Hutt sp-Heather GARRETT (Upper Hutt) She did a BSc degree
in Physical Education at Ohio State University on an Athletic Scholarship
in 1992, then an MA (Applied) in Recreation and Leisaure at Victoria
University in 1994. Niece of husband of 1215. Heather is Grants & Research
Officer for the NZ Sports Foundation ph 04 473 8796 x844
www.sportsfoundation.org.nz They spent 1996-98 working and travelling in UK.
* 2000-1: 110 Wallace St, Mt Cook, Wellington tel 04 385 8325
341111 6-Caitlin Lily WALKER (31.5.2000 Wellington)
34112 5-Richard "Rick" William WALKER (8.10.1972 Upper Hutt) In 1992 he spent
6 months in England playing cricket at Yorkshire Dales. In 1994 he did an Ll.B.
at Victoria University, Wellington. He now works for the Dairy Board. This has
involved working in Wellington, Melbourne, Bahrein in 2000 and Singapore in
2001.
34113 5-Craig Michael WALKER (17.11.1977 Upper Hutt)
He did a BSc in Information Technology at Massey University and is now
working for Advantage Group in Wellington.
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3412 4-Judith Lynley WALKER (29.11.1946 Devonport)
A health nurse at French Pass.
m1 c1970 Upper Hutt sp-Gary DUNCAN (1944 Westport or Wellington? - c1989
Muriwai) Potter. Divorced.
34121 5-Simon Gary DUNCAN (22.6.1971 Takapuna)
Fisherman out of Napier with his own boat.
34122 5-Anna Jane DUNCAN (22.9.1973 Takapuna) In 1994 she
was overseas with the NZ rowing team. In 1995 she is training with them in
Invercargill. In 1999 studying accountancy at Waikato Tech.
* 2000: Hamilton
34123 5-Freya DUNCAN (29.12.1977 Havlock South) In 1995 she went to Costa
Rica for a year on a Field Scholarship.
This article with photo from Rodney Times sport@timesmedia.co.nz 28.10.2003:
"Hibiscus Coast teacher Freya SONNELAND ... who teaches at Hibiscus Coast
Intermediate, was part of the NZ women's canoe polo team which .. won gold in
the Aussie Interclub Champs & silver in the inaugural Oceania Champs .. started
playing canoe pola [at 17] in Nelson ..."
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[3412 4-Judith Lynley WALKER (1946 Devonport)]:
m2 c1988 sp-(Blane) Roger SONNELAND (27.12.1946 Tacoma,Washington,
USA)
They own their own bay, 1.7 hours drive from Rye Valley turnoff.
* 2000: Ngaio Bay, French Pass, Marlborough ph 03 576 5287
34124 5-(Sea) Breeze SONNELAND male (17.3.1981 French Pass,
Durville Island)
* 2001: living at home.
34125 5-Magnolia SONNELAND (30.4.1983 Nelson OR
28.5.1983 Blenheim Hospital)
* 2000: Blenheim.
3413 4-Evelyn Rae WALKER (23.9.1949 Devonport) A nurse.
m 1970 St John's,Trentham,Upper Hutt sp-Donald Guthrie ESPIE (7.9.1944
Welllington) Son of John Guthrie ESPIE of Kaitangata near Balclutha and
Kathleen Mary nee STAFFORD of Invercargill. He is a chemical engineer for
Formica. In 1996 they lived at Codlin Rd, Waiuku then in 1998 at 23 Meachen
Terrace, Waiuku.
* 2000: 20B Edgewater Parade, Waiuku ph 09 235 8842 (W of Pukekohe)
34131 5-Samantha Eveline ESPIE (8.1.1973 Lower Hutt)
In 1994 she did a B.C.A. (Bachelor of Commerce and Administration) at
Victoria University, Wellington. She worked for Ford International and is now
working for a communications/broadcasting company in Auckland.
34132 5-Daniel John ESPIE (3.10.1974 Howick, Auckland)
In 1995 he finished his Bachelor of Technology in Food Technology at Massey.
He worked in Invercargill and now works for a dairy company (The NZ Dairy
Coop ?) in Matamata.
3414 4-Penelope Jean WALKER (26.2.1952 Devonport or Upper Hutt)
m 28.6.1975 St John's,Trentham,Upper Hutt sp-Graeme Murray COLEY (19.6.1951
Lower Hutt)
* 2000: 136 Waiwhetu Rd, Lower Hutt
34141 5-Emma June COLEY (3.10.1983 Lower Hutt)
34142 5-Shelley Louise COLEY (4.9.1990 Lower Hutt)
342 3-Victor William Hall TRAYES (6.1.1920 Pentlands, Devonport, Auckland
d 14.10.2008 Auckland) A 4th generation Devonport resident.
Attended Vauxhall Primary, Takapuna Grammar and TGS. In 1935 he joined
Campbell and Ehrenfried Co. In 1939 he enrolled in the Army Prelim. at Narrow
Neck. Completed his accountancy under 21. In 1935-36 he rowed
for the North Shore Rowing Club, his four winning the Sutton Cup.
He coached the North Shore Senior Rugby Team, winners of the Pollard Cup
for the "2nd 6" - see photo in NZH? c1937. In 1939 he was in the North Shore
3rd Intermediate team, winners of the Napier Shield.
c1922-23: 342 Vic TRAYES, 371 Laurette RUSSELL, 37 Vera RUSSELL, 34 Evie TRAYES at the beach - from Vera's collection.
Taken at same time, this also includes Rex RUSSELL, husband of Vera.
taken at same time?: Victor, Vera, Laurette, Evie & Peg.
Vic up Ruapehu on the wooden skis he bought from cousin 371 Laurette RUSSELL for 10/-.
A photo of him doing a flip appears in 25.5.1940 NZH? raising money for the war
effort under the caption "Bugs let loose in Queen Street".
Vic dressed up as Johny Walker raising money in Queen St for the Patriotic Appeal.
The Auckland Star 21.7.1945 contains a photo of him "Critical moment - V
TRAYES services ..."
Admitted to RNZAF October 1941, flying Hudsons in 1942 and Venturas in 1943.
Flight Lieutenant in RNZAF flying bombers in Pacific. The had 3 tours to the Solomons in 1945, later flying DC3s.
CONFIDENTIAL NOTES FOR AIRMEN DOWN IN JUNGLE
1. These notes are prepared as a guide for airMen who crash or
parachute in islands of the Mandated Territory of New Guinea occupied by
the Japanese. They have particular regard to the caution that should be
observed with, and help that can be expected from natives who are still
under the domination of the enenemy. The Mandated Territory includes New
Britain-New Ireland.
2. NATIVE ATTITUDE - The native, as a wholee, is disposed to be
friendly with the man, and where his allegiance has been temporarily claimed
by the enemy, he is almost always the unfortunate victim of circumstances
and not hostile by his own inclination.
The enemy deals ruthlessly with any native opposing his will, and the
native attitude is dominated by the enemy strength disposed in his area.
Wherever Allied force has returned in strength the native has quickly
turned against the Japanese.
The presumed present attitude of the natives in defined areas will be dealt
with separately.
3. NATIVE AS8ISTANCE - No one can go very far, or live for many days in
the jungle without native help, essentially, in the matters of guides and
food. Eventually some contact must be made with them, and the following
hints may assist in remaining alive in territory where enemy patrols are
searching for fugitive airmen.
4. APPROACHING VILLAGES - Natives almost invariably hide their women
trom enemy patrols. When approaching a village cautiously, if women can be
seen doing their normal work about the houses it is a good indication that
the immediate area is clear or Japanese. If no women can be seen and
particularly toward evehing when they normally return from their gardens to
do the day's cooking, it is certain that something has disturbed them,
possibly a Japanese patrol in the immediate area.
5. NATIVE GUIDES - When a native is leading you along a path and appears
cheerful and content to remain close beside you, all is well. Should
he appear nervous and accompany you only at a considerable distance, or
stop and endeavour to persuade you to go on to some close feature alone,
it is possible that he is under enemy influence and leading you into an
ambush at the same time endeavouring to keep himself clear of fire. In
these indications it is best to make a wide detour through the jungle.
6. NATIVE TREACHERY - When a small party of white men appear
fatigued and helpless, natives under strong enemy pressure, may attempt to
over-power the party and deliver it to the Japanese. If this is attempted
it is usually done with considerable cunning and preceeded invariably by an
effort to steal or otherwise secure the white man's firearms. The signs
of the usual procedure are evident tension and talking in groups. Then
they will express mock concern for your fatigued condition and suggest that
they help you by carrying your firearms for you. They may attempt to steal
your pistol when you take your clothes off for a wash. Once disarmed you
are an easy victim and tied up "pig fashion" and delivered to the enemy.
Quite apart from any treachery, if a native is carrying your firearm
and the enemy appears suddenly, the native will bolt and you will be left
unarmed. You would be by no means the first to fall into this simple trap,
and the lesson is never to separate yourself from your firearms.
7. TALKING TO NATIVES - Many natives speak pidgin and can readily
understand simple English words. Pidgin cannot be learned from "Useful
Phrases" or other "catchpenny" titles; it requires considerable experience
to be usefully employed. The so-called pidgin published in the press and
magasinies is written for the Australian and American reader to
-understand, but is so remote from true pidgin as to be entirely
unintelligible to the native. Therefore it is better for anyone unfamilar
with natives to use simple English words which, with the aid of a few
signs, will be sufficiently understood to meet his needs.
8. NATIVE FOODS - Any food eaten by natives can be safely eaten by white men
escaping from enemy territory. While it may frequently
appear in a dirty condition it will have been well cooked and more or less free
from injurious filth; in any case tbis will be the least of your worries.
Native gardens are the only source of ample food, and the jungle itself
will not provide a great deal - sometimes wild pawpaws, bush fruits and
berries. As a general rule, if flying foxes and birds eat any bush
fruit it can be safely eaten by man. Wild banana trees when cut down and
split have a central shoot which can be eaten raw. Coconuts, sweet potatoes,
taro, etc. are all native garden produce and obvious foods.
9. FINDING NATIVE VILLAGES AND GARDENS - If in the jungle climb
to some high feature and nearby gardens will be seen seen in small clearings.
More distant ones can be located toward evening when the women return
from their gardens and smoke of village fires can be seen.
10. TAXING A CANOE - If making a getaway by canoe if possible fill it up
with coconuts. Coconuts will serve several wants; firstly the milk of the
nut will satisfy thirst and the meat of the nut is excellent food.
Secondly, if the canoe swamps the coconuts if secured will float it, even
split husks will float for hours and in emergency two coconuts tied
together under tbe arms will make a serviceab1e lifebelt.
11. SHARKS - Curiosity may bring sharks about a life raft. If a shark
approaches a native in the water, the native will shout and beat the
water with his hands once only to scare it away. He will not continue to
beat the water or kick as tbts will attract them, just as a noise of a
shoal of fish jumping does. The old story that a shark must turn over
to bite is a long explored fallacy. A shark has limited sight and is mostly
attracted by noise and smell of blood. Always cover an exposed sore or
wound if possible. If you have a pistol fire it to frighten sharks but
not to hit one. If hit the shark will bleed and others maddened by the
smell of blood will thresh the water and snap at anything.
12. MALARIA - If you have lost your medical kit and are a malarial
subject it is wise to keep away from swamps and low lying country. At
about 1500 ft. above sea level and over there are no malaria infected
mosquitoes.
13. FOOTPRINTS - The enemy will follow your footprints if he can and
will observe great caution to hide his own. If the ground is soft enough
for you to walk barefooted you can cover your trail for some distance.
When you have left your foot-prints in a village never neglect to get the
natives to brush them out; both for your security and for the natives as
the enemy will punish them for befriending you. The best method of
covering your trail is to walk in the water along running streams from time
to time.
14. DOGS - The Japanese have some Alsatian Police Dogs in New Guinea,
although there is no record of their having been used to date to track
Allied personnel. In such event however an easy method of throwing a dog
otf the scent is to walk in a running stream for some distance, then walk
in a wide complete circle on the side of the stream and continue along the
stream as far as desired.
15. AVOID COASTAL VILLAGES AND TRACKS - If you are on a coastline
regularly patrolled by the enemy and have some indication that friendly
natives may be contacted in another area, it is wiser to travel indland as
far as possible, even over a very difficult route,- than to travel by
coastal villages and tracks. The enemy patrols the coast much more
frequently than inland areas and has the natives under firmer
control. You can move much faster and more easily on the coast,- but use it
only if you are certain that it is clear.
16. THE JAP IN THE BUSH - It is useful to remember that the Japanese
soldier is not a good bushman, and he is certainly no better and probably
a very inferior bushman to you. Unless you are wounded and unarmed he
will not follow you for any distance into the jungle, but will wait
and try and ambush you later. He wi1l have to bring native guides wbo
are even more reluctant to follow you in the jungle if they think you are
armed. Normally if you are a fugitive and get ten yards start on a
Jap. patrol in the jungle, lucky hits excepted, you are safe for the time
being.
17. NATURAL SENTRIES - Warning of an approaching party is
frequently given by white cockatoos which will follow any moving
along for some distance screeching angrily. In low growth many
varieties of small birds are easily alarmed and will flutter excitedly
in small groups away from an approaching patrol. At night wild pigs racing
through the undergrowth may indicate that they have been startled by a
patrol. All those signs are well worth watching, the cockatoos in
particular have frequently given a timely warning.
18. ATTITUDE TO NATIVES - It is important to endeavour, as far as
possible, to avoid appearing fugitive and friendless. It is wise to
give the natives the impression that you are undisturbed and tell them
stories of great Allied strength. Endeavour to convince them that you are a
man of considerable importance. Their attitude will often depend on your
appearance and it they get the impression that you are weak- and upset they
may not be so readily inclined to help you, On the other hand if you appear
undisturbed and confident it may turn a difficult situation to your favour.
19. PAYMENT OF NATIVES - A native expects to be paid for his services.
Badges of rank, cap badges, etc., all have considerable value for this
purpose. The promise or a "FUZE" (one hundred shillings) when they bring
you to safety, is a suitable promise or reward, and if successful every
effort should be made to honour the promise. If without items suitable
for payment, write a "pass" on a piece of paper "To the District Officer -
The bearer (name) rendered loyal service providing me with food and
guides for (?) days. Please reward him - signed NAME ONLY." Tell the
native to give it to the "Kiap" when the Japs are defeated, at the sane
time warn him that it is his death warremt if falling into the hands of the
enemy.
20. BUSH NATIVES - While the more educated beach native may sometimes
prove treacherous under enemy influence," the bush native is readily either
whole-heartedly friendly or openly hostile quite apart from any enemy
influence. They will be readily recognised by scant clothing,
native-made loin coverings almost naked compared to the imported
loin-cloths of the beach people. As a general rule the bush native will be
quite friendly and exceedingly curious. Tales of headhunters and cannibals
are almost entirely romantic rubbish and can be completely forgotten.
21. NATIVES GENERALLY - Whenever thc native is not under pressure by
the enemy he will almost always be friendly toward a white man. In
territory dominated by the enemy it is not wise to assume that a native
is friendly until you prove him otherwise. It is safer to regard him as
strictly neutral until you are certain whether he is friendly or
otherwise. Don't try and bluff natives with a pistol unless they are
actually hostile to you, and remember that you have as many enemies as
you can handle on your hands with the Japanese without adding to your
troubles by foolishly making natives antagonistic toward you.
Southland Times 2.2.1944
GOOD WORK BY NZ AIRMAN - Damaged Plane Brought Safely Home
(RNZAF Official News Service)
GUADALCANAR, January 30.
With one motor of his Ventura deadened by anti-aircraft fire and 140 miles
separating him from the nearest Allied airfield, Flying Officer VWH Trayes,
RNZAF, of Auckland, put up a fine showing recently by bringing his aircraft
and crew safely through teir peril and making a perfect landing under
hazardous conditions.
A force of New Zealand bombers had raided Japanese installations at Cape St
George, New Ireland, spreading their bombs, smack across the target area.
Rapid fire poured from enemy anti-aircraft posts and Flying Officer Trayes'
aircraft, low over the water at the time, was hit in the wing and starboard oil
cooler, resulting in a failure of the starboard motor. The speed dropped
very quickly.
The pilot tried to gain height and nursing the remaining motor as much as
possible managed to clamber to 1200 feet. By that time the aircraft was
labouring close to its danger speed and Flying Officer Trayes settled down
to keeping the port engine running on just enough power to maintain height.
He had hard work holding the aircraft which staggered along unsteadily.
Soon he was able to capitalize on help from an unusual quarter for reaching
cumulus clouds the aircraft was thrown on to a more even keel by the
updraught, which also boosted its speed and height. Ready in case a sea
landing should be necessary the crew were greatly relieved when Bougainville
hove in sight, but a new problem awaited them. The fighter strip where they
had to land was not long enough for their aircraft. For safety the pilot had
to overshoot a little and when the bomber came to rest its front wheels were
off the sand and just going in to the water off the end of the runway.
Members of Flying Officer Trayes's crew were Flying Officer RH Chaplin
(Hawkes Bay) as navigator, Flight Sergeant CJ Shaw (Hamilton), as wireless
operator and Sergeant CR Thomas (Christchurch) and Sergeant TH Broadbent
(Auckland) as airgunners.
Vic was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross: see photo 12.9.1945
(NZH or Weekly News?):
Mr EV Trayes AIR DEPARTMENT
33 Tainui Road, WELLINGTON C1
Devonport, REF NO 5/2/8599 DPR.
AUCKLAND 9th July, 1945
Dear Mr Trayes,
Further to the telegram sent to you by the Hon. the Minister of
Defence with reference to the award of the Distinguished Flying Cross
to your son, Flight Lieutenant Victor William Hall Trayes, I have to
advise that the following is the text of the citation which
accompanied the award:-
"Exceptional qualities of skill, courage and determination have been
displayed by Flight Lieutenant Trayes, in the course of three tours
of operations in the Pacific, during which he has completed 104
operational missions. His last two tours have been as captain of
bomber aircraft, and have involved a series of low-level attacks on
important Japanese installations and troop concentrations on New
Ireland. He has also made many medium-level daylight bombing attacks
on the Rabaul area, flying through accurate and intense anti-aircraft
fire, and setting a fine example by his determination and courage.
When one motor was put out of action by anti-aircraft fire during his
second tour, he flew his damaged aircraft 180 miles across the sea to
friendly territory, landing successfully without further damage, on a
half-completed airstrip. He has throughout, distinguished himself by
his personal bravery and intense devotion to duty in the face of the
enemy".
On behalf of the Air Board, I desire to convey to you my sincere
congratulations on your son's fine achievement.
Yours faithfully,
(signed) TA Barrow
AIR SECRETARY
Awarded the Pacific Star on 4.10.1945. His service number was 415797.
He flew 1884 hours in WW2, having several close calls with death.
He flew many missions from Guadacanal in the Solomons, and also flew to
Bougainville and to Fiji and New Caledonia from Auckland. Here are two photos
at Guadacanal
L to R top: Ralph CHAPMAN, Vic, Bert CAISLEY of Devonport,
3 Americans; bottom L: officer in charge; on back: after a supply drop over
Bouganville.
A crew in front of their plane; L to R: . (ex ChCh), .,
Vic, Cyril SHAW from Te Awamutu.
He served in GR Squadrons 1,2,3,4,9 and Transport Squadrons 40 and 41.
He was one of the Airforce team that won the Auckland Rugby Premiership in the
Gallaher Shield final: see photo 13.10.1945 (NZH or Weekly News?). In 1946 he
returned to work for C and E Co. He was invested with his DFC at Government
House, Auckland on 19.5.1949. He did a B.Comm. He became financial adviser
for the MYERS family, and NZ Wine and Spirits, and Commercial Manager for
Campbell and Ehrenfried. They bought a farm in Kaipara Harbour in 1977. They
have many family photos. He published his memoirs in 1993 in a volume "VICTOR
VICTOR" (113 pp including 63 pp of text.) I have sent copies to the Takapuna,
Auckland Central and National Libraries. Let Vic's family or me know if you
want a copy and we'll see what we can arrange.
The NZ Womens Weekly for 23.2.1959 contains an article on his family "So the
dolls came too" with 5 photos and one of their boats. In 1980 he was chief
organiser of Takapuna Grammar's 50th Jubilee. A member of the Albion Lodge No
45 until 1985. He bought a 26 foot mulletboat yacht, the Starlight. They sailed
to Kawau Island where Kristan and Andrew have a bach: see NZH? 26.10.1991. The
photos under 34* are from Vic's collection.
From Jan's eulogy:
Dad left school at 15, to join Campbell and Ehrenfried, a wine and spirits and
hotel management company, with whom Dad spent his entire working life. In his
usual modest manner, Dad reports that:
"I only got the job because of a very good reference from Mr Colin LITTLEJOHN,
then headmaster of TGS who said: Young TRAYES, though diminutive in stature, is
the soul of honour and I can thoroughly recommend him". I was so impressed with
this eulogy that I really tried to be that way." Dad started as an office boy
on 15/- ($1.50) a week. "I was two years as office boy and held the record of
Strand Arcade to the Post office to collect the mail and back in 5 minutes!"
As you all know, Dad only ever had one speed - flat out!
Between 1935 and 1940 Dad completed his professional accounting qualifications
part-time at ATI, while still working at Campbell and Ehrenried. In his spare
time he played tennis, rugby, sailed boats and was a member of the rowing club.
By the look of his photos, he also did lots of socialising, fishing and
boating. With the outbreak of war in 1939, Dad enrolled in the army for
training, but then decided the airforce had more appeal...
Although he never made a big deal of it, Dad did have one very close shave
after being hit in the wing by anti-aircraft fire. He flew many miles on one
engine using the uplift from the cumulous clouds to maintain stability and
ultimately make a safe landing. For this he was awarded the DFC, and although
he would be really embarrassed by this, we would like to read part of his DFC
citation that was sent to his father in 1945:
"Exceptional qualities of skill, courage and determination have been
displayed by Flight Lieutenant TRAYES, in the course of three tours of
operation in the Pacific, during which he completed 104 operational missions...
When one motor was out, he flew his damaged aircraft 180 miles across the sea
to friendly territory, landing successfully without further damage on a
half-completed air strip. He has throughout distinguished himself by his
personal bravery and intense devotion to duty in the face oft he enemy."
Dad, of course saw it differently. As he said in his log book, it wasn't
about skill. It was "actually, if not certainly, a miracle from the good Lord
that we made it safely back". In fact, he did not even include the citation in
his memoirs, such is his humility.
After the war, Dad returned to his old job and completed a B Com at Auckland
University. He continued to play rugby for North Shore and the Services. More
significantly for us, he became closely involved with the TGS Ex Pupils
Association, where he was Secretary and then President. Because of Dad's
connections in the hospitality industry he was able to arrange great venues
for ex pupils' trips, and it was on one of these that he met Mum.
"At almost over the hill at 27 or 28, I found my perfect girl... she of course
realized I wasn't the perfect man, but I'd do."
In February, 1940, Dad proposed to Mum from his hospital bed, where he was
recovering from a rugby injury and in the original St Peters ...
Dad was never happier than when he was on or in the sea. He always felt you
should visit a beach every day if you could, and mostly he did. Like everything
else, Dad approached a swim at full speed, charging down the beach, crashing in
to the waves, and heading for Rangitoto with thrashing arms and feet. For Dad,
boating was one of life's great gifts. He built his first boat when he was 18,
and he just kept right on building them. Dad built us kayaks, and home-made
water skis (or shees, as he call them). We had home-built runabouts and home
made life jackets which would have taken us straight to the bottom if we had
ever been tossed into the drink. We had banana boats and rubber duckies. And
the pièce de resistance: a 26ft mullet boat, called STARLIGHT...
Mum and Dad built their house at the beginning of their married life, helped
by Poppa TRAYES, a stone mason, and Puppa CADNESS, a plumber. It was the only
house they ever lived in. It was Dad's pride and joy and he never tired of the
gardens or the lovely view of Rangitoto...
One of Dad's more ambitious do-it yourself efforts, was his project to link
the back garden down the sheer cliff to the beach 100 feet below. His
brilliant idea was to acquire a ladder from the Ponsonby fire station...
These activities were many, and as well as his day job, included tutoring at
AIT, and membership of the Wakatere Boating Club, the North Shore Rugby Club,
the Waitemata Golf Club, the Brevet Club, vestry membership and warden at this
church, auditing work for many organizations, to name but a few. In 1977, he
chaired the committee which organised the TGS 50th jubilee celebrations...
His funeral service was held at St Peter's Anglican Church, Killarney St,
Takapuna on October 20th, 2008.
Jan has kindly sent me his Service - stored as VicTRAYESservice.pdf
& a tribute from his grandchildren - stored as GrandiesTribute.doc
NOTE Vic flew twice in April 1942 with a close cousin Pilot Officer Terence O.
HALL at Wigram. HOW IS THIS MYSTERY COUSIN RELATED? He seems unlikely to be a
son of 48 Leslie HALL, so would have to be the son of an unknown brother of
4 Henry HALL that also emigrated to New Zealand.
His war record at the Defence Dept may hold the clue! Vic says they also met at
Milford, so he may have been an Aucklander, and that he died c1945.
……………………………………….
m 15.4.1950 St Peter's,Takapuna sp-Rae Lois CADNESS (30.12.1927 Northcote,
Auckland) She played cricket versus England as an Auckland Rep. in 1947-48.
A wedding photo of Vic & Rae.
A photo of her with Prime Minister MULDOON's wife at Takapuna Grammar's
50th Jubilee is in the N Shore Times Advertiser for 11.3.1980 p2.
* 2000: 56 Seacliffe Av, Belmont, Auckland ph 09 445 6275
3421 4-Jan Kristan TRAYES (19.1.1951 North Shore)
m1 sp-Russell SOMMERVILLE (Auckland) Divorced. Works for Air NZ.
34213 5-Kim Maree SOMMERVILLE then TRAYES (8.2.1975 Takapuna) Adopted
by Gary (see m2 below) in 1980. Kim has a Dip Tchg and BEd, 1997, from
Auckland, and is about to return to teaching part-time after taking time off
when Asha was born.
m 13.5.2000 at the Wilson Home, Takapuna sp-Reuben David MCCORMACK (14.11.1974
Takapuna) Reuben graduated with a BSc in Geography from Auckland in 1996, and
is currently a Police Officer working at Auckland Central.
#2008 in Nelson. 2000: 6 Ariho Terrace, Auckland.
342131 6-Asha Rose MCCORMACK (28.8.2000 Takapuna)
[3421 4-Jan Kristin TRAYES (1951)]:
"Jonny is studying for bursary (a bit!), Matt has just returned from
Tahiti on the delivery voyage of a superyacht, and Kim back part time
teaching while Nana here has the baby. I'm still tramping, boxing,
working at the hospice doing biographies for patients and playing the
sharemarket online. Good fun! Also had a great 2 week kayak around
Tonga earlier in the year. ...plus stick fighting" - 27.9.2000.
In 2002 she is studying psychology.
*2003-08 ashasnan@xtra.co.nz
m2 1979 St Michael's, Bayswater,Devonport?,Auckland sp-Gary J DICK (1952
Hamilton) </pre><A HREF="4421.jpg"> Here is Jan and Gary's engagement photo.
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* 2000: 57 Tainui Rd, Devonport, Auckland ph 09 445 9681 garyd@ihug.co.nz
bounced 09
[3421 4-Jan Kristin TRAYES (1951)]:
2008 living in Nelson while doing PhD at Auckland Uni.
34211 5-Matthew DICK now TRAYES (1981 North Shore Hospital)
34212 5-Jonathan DICK now TRAYES (1982 North Shore Hospital)
………………………..
3422 4-Wendy Rae TRAYES (26.9.1953 North Shore)
m c1975 Takapuna sp-Grahame Ewen SELKIRK (24.7.19xx Auckland)
Wendy, Grahame and Kelly c1982.
#2008 they live in Vic & Rae's old home.
# 2000: 33 Tainui Rd, Devonport, Auckland ph 09 445 3604
34221 5-Kelly Julia SELKIRK (6.3.1979 St Helen's Auckland)
Graduated 1998 from Wellington Polytech with a Diploma in Fashion Design.
34222 5-Claire Victoria SELKIRK (26.9.1982 North Shore, Auckland)
34223 5-Donna Gabriel SELKIRK (30.8.1984 North Shore)
3423 4-Kristin Joy TRAYES (1957 North Shore)
Kristin ex KT from NZHerald 27.7.2005: `X-FACTOR: Kristin BROWN's
"Visual Equations for the Year Ended.." is on at the University of Auckland'
Business School. `Auckland painter Kristin BROWN used her accountancy education
to stimulate her art. After finishing her 4 yr BCom (accounting, finanaces &
tax) BROWN spent another 4 yrs studying for her bachelor of visual arts. Her
new exhibition "Visual Equations..." `Over time I realised my passion was in
creating art from accountancy formulas & images.'
m sp-Andrew H BROWN Lawyer with Russell McVeagh.
LOST: Kristin and Andrew's engagement photo.
* 1995-2000: 18 Hamana St, Devonport, Auckland ph 09 445 8881
34231 5-Stephanie BROWN (1981 North Shore) Takapuna Grammar. Pianist and
composer. Her photo appears in the NZ Herald just before 6.7.1998 being chosen
for the national composing conference ACCENT98 (Aspiring Composers Course
Exploring the New and Traditional). She has won awards for being NZ's top
musician in jazz imposition. She plays keyboard for Anika MOA, Nathan HAINES,
etc. #2008 studying music in New York.
34232 5-James BROWN (1984)
34233 5-Nicholas BROWN (1987)
3424 4-Terri TRAYES (8.6.1959 North Shore)
m 1980 St Peter's, Takapuna sp-Colin Walter SWAGER (3.7.1952)
* 1995-2000: 52 Vauxhall Rd, Devonport, Auckland ph 09 445 1091
34241 5-Andrea SWAGER (4.8.1985)
34242 5-Timothy SWAGER (28.8.1987)
34243 5-Abigail SWAGER (21.4.1990)
35 2-Harry Frederick HALL (29.5.1888 Auckland-9.6.1917 Messines, Belgium)
In the birthday book c1888 of 646 of
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kitwithers/rathbone/rathbone.html
(YET TO PUT ON SUBSTACK)
his birthday is May 29. Second Lieutenant in the Auckland Infantry Battalion,
killed in action at Messines, Belgium in WW1.
A face of the HALL plinth at Purewa Cemetery, Auckland is dedicated to
him. I have a button from his greatcoat. An obituary Herald 19.7.1917 ex [3215]
via KT reads "ROLL OF HONOUR - HALL On June 9, killed in action in France,
Harry Frederick, second-lieutenant, dearly beloved eldest son of Mr & Mrs H
HALL, Dominion Road, Devonport; aged 29 years. He died serving his country for
the cause of humanity."
Another obituary ex [3215] via KT:Second-Lieutenant HALL killed in action, was
the eldest son of H HALL of Dominion Road. He enlisted as a private, promoted
corporal before leaving NZ with an early reinforcement. After service in Egypt
& France he was recommended for his command being sent to an officers training
camp in London to continue his studies. 2nd Lieutenant HF Hall was educated at
Grafton School & at the Training College. He was a keen yachtsman & all round
sportsman. Previous to his enlistment he was assistant master of Epsom school.
Handwritten ex 1215 via KT: Harry Frederick HALL dearly beloved brother of
Mrs J FARRAR - June 9th 1917 "He giveth His Beloved Sleep".
Harry c17.
Harry's portrait, Auckland Weekly News 1917: Lieutenant Harry F HALL of Devonport, Killed in action. from Auckland War Memorial Museum's online cenotaph:
Harry in army gear (I guess before he left NZ) holding what looks like a riding crop:
with the addresses his mother Laura gave Harry of his relatives in England.
"Your uncle John HALL [5] who is in France ... your aunt Sarah Mrs & cousin Jack B? LONGWORTH [41], … PS Send me your friends' full name & I will write & tell them." ;
an obituary card for him with a photo of him in army gear, (on the back is a
crest with "3rd Auck(land) Regiment NZ Infantry Battalion, Countess of
Ranfurly's own); and a copy of reg.jpg, the photo of Reg [36] in army gear taken in 1917.
These were given to me by June [361].
Harry's war diary and letters to Vera [37], are available at
HARRY HALL'S WORLD WAR ONE DIARY AND LETTERS TO VERA HALL
formerly http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kitwithers/hall/harry_to_vera.txt 29.4.2009
formerly at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kitwithers/hall/harry_to_vera.txt
He also sent back to Vera: a vine from No Mans Land between the trenches at the front line, a menu from Cairo, a French hanky with national flags embroidered on it, ...
A sketch of him smiling lying on corrugated iron on mud in trench; above are 5 rows marked sb (sandbag), b (brick), sandbag, brick, sandbag.
Caption: Side elevation of our dugout. HARCOURT, ARMITAGE & self - safe from
earth and flying fragments only.
Harry named his trench S.78 after his Devonport street: Beaconsfield St.
WHO IS MILLY?? Harry's diary includes these entries on meeting family:
26.6.1916: On Saturday I had letters from MARJERY [31], MILL, AUNT RUTH [648 in
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kitwithers/rathbone/rathbone.html].
12.9.1916: 2 letters from Aunt RUTH [648 in rathbone.html] & MILLY.
4.10.1916: Went to SHEFFIELD last weekend and met AUNTS RUTH [648 in
rathbone.html], MAUD [649 in rathbone.html], COUSINS JOE, ALF, MAGGIE
[6491 in rathbone.html]. UNCLE HARRY [husband of 648 in rathbone.html].
Joe & Alf could be unknown children of Maud [649 in rathbone.html].
http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/ gives no Milly RATHBONE or PASHLEY but several
Milly HALL eg Milly HALL 18 bc 1883 Birmingham Birmingham Aston - asked BC.
WHO IS Aunt Louise [Referred to in Harry's diary for 23.11.16 and 19.12.1916 as
Aunt Louie and as Aunt Louise on 10th to last page of diary]??
??1901 Shoreditch, London at home of Edward MAYFORD M 53 Shoreditch, London:
Louise HALL Visitor M 30 1871 Shoreditch, London with sons Fred 6 & Ernest 4
Harry's diary p -8:
Grandparents & Gt.Gd. parents' graves (on Mum's side), Met AUNTS RUTH, MAUD,
COUSINS MAGGIE & UNCLE JACK's two lads. Saw bomb effects.
BB thinks this could be not 6 but another Uncle Jack, from rathbone.html:
64(13) 3-"Jack" John Silas RATHBONE (16.5.1878 June qtr Eccleshall Brierlow,
m1 sp- BRENNER of the famous Swiss family. 2 children: both died young.
Kay TRAYES [3222-sp] provided the following from the Commonwealth War Graves
Commission at http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx
In memory of 2nd Lieutenant Harry Frederick HALL, 12/3343, 2nd Battalion,
Auckland Regt, NZEF who died aged 31 on Saturday 9.6.1917 ... son of Henry
and LE HALL of 71 Park Rd, Auckland. Native of Remuera, Auckland. Assistant
master, Epsom School. Remembered with honour, Messines Ridge (NZ) Memorial
to the Missing, Mesen, West-Vlaanderen, Belgium ... 9.5km S of Ieper town
centre on the Niuwkerekestraat, a road from the Rijselseweg, N365 which
connects Iaper to Wijtschate, Mesen and on to Armentieres. ... The NZ
Division spent the winter of 1916-17 on the Lys, within sight of Messines ...
(31 & 71 should be 29 & 79. The numbers changed at some point.)
A site on Australian and New Zealand WW1 soldiers is
www.rootsweb.com/~ausnzwwi/
Another WW1 site is http://www.pitt.edu/~pugachev/greatwar/ww1.html
These photos of the Devonport War Memorial & his name "HALL HF" </A><pre>
were taken on Anzac Day 2002. "Our poppy is closest to Harry's
name." The statue of the soldier looks out to the harbour.
(Also on another side of the cenotaph is an unrelated HJ HALL.)
Geoff [381] has a photo of his mother Laura marked "This photo of Mum was
sent to Harry ... when he was killed it was ..." Geoff also has by? NT BACON 4
photos on the Thames?: 1 of Jack in uniform, another of Jack [6] & wife & Harry
[35]. Also postcard (from Harry or Jack?) "84 Cairo - The mosque on the
Mokattam -LL".
The Online Cenotaph at Auckland Museum gives this link to Harry </A><pre>
http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph/record/C6123?n=Harry%20Frederick%20Hall&ordinal=0&from=%2Fwar-memorial%2Fonline-cenotaph%2Fsearch
It lists these memorials for him:
Messines Ridge (New Zealand) Memorial, Messines Ridge British Cemetery, Belgium AWMMhttp://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph/record/C6123?n=Harry%20Frederick%20Hall&ordinal=0&from=%2Fwar-memorial%2Fonline-cenotaph%2Fsearch
Devonport War Memorial, Devonport, Auckland, New Zealand AWMM
Roll of Honour, Holy Trinity (Anglican) Church, 20 Church Street, Devonport, Auckland
- thanks to Jock Phillips shock@xtra.co.nz 2018.
Jock confirms that the following photo (split into 2 here) in Mum's collection
is of Kiwis in WW1 - but I dont see Harry in it.
NOTE Searching for war diaries at
http://catalogue.akcity.govt.nz/ gave among other titles NZ LAND WARS:
"Sergeant..Taranaki war diary(1860-61).." (1990) Sgt W MARJOURAM BOER WAR:
"The Boer War diary of Sol T PLAATJE" (1973) Sol T PLAATJE WW1:
"Compensations of war: diary of an ambulance driver.." (1983) GE BOWERMAN
"Chronicle of youth: war diary 1913-17" (1981) V BRITTAIN "Unsung heroes -
inspiring NZrs" (19 ) Jim ANDERTON - includes Col W MALONE at Gallipoli "The
Great Adventure" (1988) edited by Jock PHILLIPS,N BOYACK & EP MALONE WW2:
"The devil's garden: Solomon Islands war" (1992) P PINNEY "Australians in
the air of WW2" (1997) Dennis NEWTON in the Combat Diary Series - how to
access this? "The HALDER war diary 1939-42"(c1988) F HALDER "War birds: the
diary of an unknown aviator" (1966) EW SPRINGS.
(Epsom Normal Primary School put out a booklet in 1986 for their centennial.
Helen KILGOUR is in charge of archives in 2000.)
The Clevedon Museum has records and photos of Harry and also of Edward HANTON.
This photo by KT shows the cairn of stones from Gallipoli
unveiled .4.2005 in Auckland Domain.
This photo by KT shows his name in the Hall of Memories,
Auckland War Memorial Museum.
June MCCARTHY, 361, has a photo inscribed by him "Your Harry 22.4.1915 To Dad";
a photo of Harry? at Te Kopuru Match (tennis?) 1911-12,
& a tennis photo of him next to Basil ROSE marked "Your old pal Harry HALL".
36 2-Reginald Rathbone HALL b 3rd qtr 1897 Auckland d 1.11.1969 of Warkworth
bur Waipu cem. http://www.jarrell.ca/2788.htm gives:
d 1.11.1966 Auckland at 69, buried at Waipu where his wife's family are buried.
June MCCARTHY, 361, has his birth certificate.
Grocer. He enrolled 23.5.1910 at Devonport District School No. 9455 with his
brother Leslie [38]. Vera [37] is not on the register. (No. 9979 on the
register is an Arthur G HALL with a Mrs H HALL of Queen's Parade, Devonport.
Also children of a William HALL of Devonport enrolled:
Florence May & James HB HALL in 1903, & Edna M HALL in 1907.
Perhaps HALL's Corner in Devonport is named after this family?)
Reg HALL from collection of Geoff HALL. Reg in army gear in 1917:
A copy of the same photo was sent "To Vera and Rex, Yours sincerely Reg"
familysearch ID 2HH9-4C8
………………………………………….
m 1922 sp-Mary Henrietta (Meryl) McLEOD b1898 Waipu,d 20.10.1963 Waipu;
buried Waipu. Daughter of Neil McLEOD and Annie McAULAY. See that site for
Neil's family. His family were from Nova Scotia, & earlier from the Isles of
Harris & Lewis in Scotland. In part ex http://www.jarrell.ca/2788.htm
the site is that of Don JARRELL donjarrl@jarrell.ca 2007,
1440 Quinsam Place, Courtenay, B.C., Canada V9N 7W4. WHO HAS HER PHOTO?
…………………………………….
361 3-June HALL (14.3.1923 Tuakau, N of Waikato Heads,W of Pokeno)
In 1987 lived at 45 Lilburn St, Warkworth.
* 1998-2001: 19 Rawhiti Place (L off Ariki), Snell's Beach, Warkworth
tel 09 425 4345
m sp-`Dick' Richard Augustine MCCARTHY (28.4.1922 Remuera,
Auckland-14.6.1993 Mokau near Hikurangi near Whangarei) They lived at
Rothsay Bay.
3611 4-Anthony Hall MCCARTHY (28.2.1949 Narrow Neck, Naval
Base?, Devonport) Ground crew for Skyworks Helicopters.
*1996: RD 1, Whangaripo Valley Rd, Matakana, Warkworth ph 09 422 7367
2000: 33 Earls Way, Warkworth ph 09 425 8432
m 1973 at Titirangi sp-Christine Joy KING (1953). Separated.
36111 5-Gina Maree MCCARTHY (1975 Wellington) Travel agent
* 1996: Auckland
36112 5-Brett Christopher MCCARTHY (1977 Wellington) He is
an apprentice mechanic at Orewa.
* 1996: with his parents
36113 5-Deborah Louise MCCARTHY (1978 Wellington)
Works in a bakery after doing a patisserie course.
3612 4-Stephanie Isobel MCCARTHY (1951)
m 23.4.1973 at Holy Name Catholic Church,Warkworth sp-Ralph Derek NEVILL (1951)
They lived in Leigh Rd, Matakana, Warkworth.
* 1996: Hall Lane, Kaipara Flats, RD1, Warkworth ph 09 422 5788
36121 5-Penelope June NEVILL (11.11.1973 Warkworth Hospital) LlB and BA at
Auckland University. Then MA in law at Cambridge. In 1996 at 88 Norfolk St,
Ponsonby, Auckland. In 2009 a Fellow in Law at Downing College, Cambridge
ph +44 1223 366 716
36122 5-Todd Geoffrey NEVILL (8.1.1976 Warkworth
Hospital) Courier driver. In 1996 at 1/11 Dunbar St, Mt Eden, Auckland.
*2000: Snells Beach, Warkworth. ph 025 876 921
36123 5-Charlotte Kate NEVILL (29.11.1978) Did MCLEOD
family tree. Was captain of Northland under 18s soccer team & Mahurangi
College cricket team where she is in the 7th form. In 1995 captain of
N Auckland under 18 women's cricket team. In 1996 captain of Northland under
20's women's cricket team. Doing a BA/BComm at Victoria University in 2000.
*2000: Wellington
3613 4-(Richard) John MCCARTHY (1954) Was at 58 Will James Rd,
Algies Bay, Warkworth.
m1 at Papakura sp-Ann-Marie RICHARDSON (1954 Auckland?) Divorced &
remarried.
* 1996: 33 Oliver St, Pt Chevalier, Auckland ph 09 846 6740
36131 5-Francis Solomon MCCARTHY (4.11.1977 Papakura)
[3613 4-(Richard) John MCCARTHY (1954)]
* 1996-2000: 5 Wilson Road, Warkworth ph 09 425 8562 (off McKinney Rd, S of WW,
S of Mahurangi College off HW1)
m2 df sp-Louise Anne HOGAN (3.12.1960 Howick,Auckland) Teaches
at Leigh Primary School.
* 2000: 10 Burrows Ave, Parnell, Auckland ph 09 377 9422
36132 5-Sam MCCARTHY (24.2.1988 Auckland National
Womens Hospital)
36133 5-Lana Nicole MCCARTHY (13.5.1996 North Shore Hospl.)
362 3-Alexander "Alex" McLeod HALL (3.6.1924 St Heliers Bay, Auckland
-5.12.2006 Auckland Hospital) His funeral service was held at HALL's Beachfront
Reserve, midway along Williams Ave, Algies Bay, 9.12.2005. Obit. NZ Herald
8.12.2005.
m sp-Edith Dorothy "Dot" LEATHWICK nee STUBBS (17.9.1925 Warkworth)
1996: 25 Will James Av, Algies Bay, Warkworth ph 09 425 5573
# 2009: 2 Dalton Rd, Snells Beach. dotty25@xtra.co.nz bounced 09
3621 4-Mark LEATHWICK (20.5.1955 Warkworth, d by 2005) Son by Dorothy's
1st marriage.
m 1985 Whangarei sp-Linda Joy MCDIVITT (28.5.1955 Whangarei)
* 1996: RD3, 9 Deborah Rise, Bonshaw Park, Taupo ph 07 378 2942
36211 5-Thomas LEATHWICK (28.11.1989)
36212 5-Jared Mark LEATHWICK (3.8.1992 Rotorua)
3622 4-Timothy McLeod HALL (5.12.1963 Auckland National Womens Hospital)
Commercial fisherman. Does skijack charters and longlining for Snapper.
He has met bronze whalers, makos and school sharks. He uses ikijimi (spike and
ice slurry) to ship fish to Japan.
* 1995-2001: 144 Ti Point Rd, RD 5, Warkworth ph 09 422 6184
3623 4-Sandra "Sandy" Louise HALL (7.8.1963 Auckland)
Was at Royal Rd, Massey, Auckland. Works at Auckland Savings Bank.
m 23.11.1991 at parents' garden in Algies Bay,Whangaparoa sp-Peter Alan HUDSON
(14.2.1959 Warkworth) Farmer. Ran for Rodney District Council.
*1996-2000: RD4 Tauhoa, Warkworth Exchange. Ph 09 422 5529
They made a CD of family photos. Gillian has a copy.
36231 5-Blaine Kendall HUDSON (3.8.1993 North Shore)
36232 5-Jordyn Alex HUDSON (17.8.1996 National Womens)
363 3-Laura Mary Sheila HALL (17.6.1928 Whangarei-5.l.l997 New Plymouth)
m l.1l.l950 Takapuna sp-Peter William FRANCIS (28.8.1927 Auckland) Justice of
the Peace. Member of fhe Pharmaceutical Society. pharmacist. Francis pharmacy
Ltd is at 553 Devon St E, Fitzroy, New plymouth ph/fax 06 758 2979. Son of Valma.
</pre><A HREF="453.jpg">
Laura and Peter at the marriage of their son Paul 3635 below.</A><pre>
June MCCARTHY, 361, has other wedding photos including one with
Vera & Rex RUSSELL.
Peter remarried on 22.5.1999 at New Plymouth
sp-Wilson Alexandra HINTON nee SCHAW (12.11.1934 palmerston North) She has 4
children and 8 grandchildren by her first marriage.
* l996-2001: 35A Breakwater Rd, New Plymouth ph 06 751 0476
3631 4-Christine Mary FRANCIS (27.8.1951 Paparoa) Paparoa is N of Auckland
between Maungaturoto and Ruawai.
m 13.1.1979 at New Plymouth sp-Bryan WOOD (26.6.1947 Whakatane)
* 2000-1: 57 Goulstone Rd, Whakatane ph 07 308 6724
36311 5-Tania WOOD (l977) <!-- engaged 2001 -->
363111 6-Alexandra Sky WOOD (8.5.1993 Whakatane)
363112 6-Jesse WOOD (6.11.1995 Whakatane)
3632 4-Jennifer Anne FRANCIS (15.10.1953 Paparoa)
ml New Plymouth sp-Stewart BRACEGIRDLE Divorced.
36321 5-Fiona Anne BRACEGIRDLE (9.5.1976 New Plymouth)
She did a gym course in US. In 2001 her New Plymouth fiancee raced cars in
Indianapolis. <!-- 2008 Lumley Insurance. -->
m 8.3.2008 sp-Mark NICOLSON 2008: in Auckland
36322 5-Kirsty Lee BRACEGIRDLE (18.10.1978 New Plymouth)
* 2000-2008: Christchurch. 2008: kirsty.lee@xtra.co.nz
"We live in Christchurch and have a tool and die making business."
m (df) sp-Bevan John GOODE
36322 1 6-Jade GOODE b 04/05/03 a stillbirth. bur Avon head cemetery,
Christchurch.
36322 2 6-Sophie Ayla GOODE b 04/04/04
36322 3 6-Coby Rylan GOODE b 24/08/06
[3632 4--Jennifer FRANCIS (1953 Paparoa)):
m2 New Plymouth sp-Russell BROOKING 2000: 7 Taylor Place, New Plymouth
* 2001: 9 Rennell St, New Plymouth
3633 4-Gillian Laura FRANCIS (26.1.1955 Paparoa) 2008: 021 070 7594.
2008: gillkeegan@yahoo.co.nz
m .1.1976 at New Plymouth sp-Bernard Michael KEEGAN (Hawera) They were at
136 Seaview Rd, New Plymouth.
*1996-2000: 1lA Redwood Cr., New Plymouth ph O6 753 3149
36331 5-Luke Graheme KEEGAN (6.1.1982 New Plymouth)
36332 5-Tammy Joy KEEGAN (5.12.1983 New Plymouth)
36333 5-Samuel Peter KEEGAN (26.7.1986 New Plymouth)
3634 4-Graeme Peter FRANCIS (30.7.1956 Paparoa)
* 2000: 32A Birdwood Ave., New Plymouth ph 06 758 2428
m at New Plymouth sp-Jayne Sophie ROSE (4.5.1962 England) Separated.
* 1996: 12A Marina Grove ?, New Plymouth ph 06 753 9688
3635 4-Paul Donald FRANCIS (16.5.1958 Paparoa) Spotswood College. Architect.
Sailed in the Flying Dutchman in the World Contest in Italy etc in 1989.
New Plymouth Daily News 11.1.1995 (with photo): Fighting spirit pays off for
yachtsman. - He won 3rd place in the Flying Dutchman World champs off Adelaide.
Broke his back at 16 in a car accident & had to learn to walk again. 2 years
later he won a national title. Lived at Hurstmere Rd,Takapuna, Auckland.
m Auckland by Dean RYMER sp-Jane BECA (Auckland)
* 1996-2000: 33 Telephone Road, Birkenhead, Auckland tel 09 419 1113
Work 09 486 4889, 8A The promenade, Takapuna.
36351 5-Vickery Laura Beca FRANCIS (1993 Auckland)
36352 5-Harrison Paul FRANCIS (26.9.1995 Auckland)
36353 5-Julia FRANCIS (6.8.1996 Auckland)
3636 4-Adrienne June FRANCIS (13.1.1966 New Plymouth) Worked at Cairns Yacht
Club, Cairns, Queensland, Australia. 1996: N of Sydney, NSW, Australia
* 2000: North Arm Cove (N of Newcastle)
m 1.1.1997 New Plymouth sp-Uli NEISWANDT (Germany)
36361 5-Arlee NEISWANDT female (14.1.1999 Newcastle,NSW,Australia)
36362 5-Isabella NEISWANDT ( .11.2000 Newcastle,NSW,Australia)
37 2-Vera Elizabeth Rathbone HALL (14.7.1897 Auckland-18.6.1970 Auckland)
The WW1 letters written 26.10.1915-25.4.1916 to her from her brother 35 Harry
are addressed to Miss Vera B HALL, c/o UTTING & Coy, Ferry Buildings, Auckland,
Miss Vera B HALL, "Lebu", Dominion Road, Devonport, Auckland (1.1-31.10.1916)
Miss Bar HALL, Lebu, Dominion Road, Devonport (24.5.1916)
Mrs Vera RUSSELL, c/ Mrs H HALL, "Lebu", Dominion Road, Devonport (29.11.1916)
Mrs V./Rex RUSSELL, No 1. Lover's Walk,Cheltenham,Devonport (21.1-6.4.1917)
Mrs R. RUSSELL, Derby Street, Devonport (23.3-16.5.1917).
For more on these homes see above under Vera's mother Laura.
Geoff HALL [381] holds postcards from Vera. One from Hamilton: "Dear Mum,
Just a pc to say I'll be home mon next. Have had a nice rest & enjoyed myself
very much. My love to all at home, Vera xxxxx". One of Junction Hotel, Thames:
"Dear Dad, o you recognize this place? Was sorry to hear from Flo that you had
the flu. Are you quite recovered? Returning tomorrow I think. Love from Vera."
Another of Seddon St, Waihi: "Dearest Dad & Les, Came through yesterday to here
by motor - very interesting passing through the goldfields - going on to Thames
thro' pm. Have you seen Flo & the baby? It is so lonely without baby.. Love
from Vera".
Death certificate: Vera Bessie RUSSELL of 19 Cathedral Place, Parnell, died at
25 Ventnor Road,Remuera of myocarditis - several months, etc; daughter of
Henry HALL builder & Laura nee RATHBONE; married at age 22 at Auckland to
Rex RUSSELL; cremated at Purewa 20.6.1970; living issue F age 52.
www.purewa.co.nz gives: Vera Bessie RUSSELL, Serial No 18775
Date of Service 20 Jun 1970
Funeral Director Sibuns Funeral Advisors, 582 Remuera Road, Remuera, AUCKLAND
Ashes Disposal Returned.
Information from staff@Sibuns.co.nz, 582 Remuera Road, Remuera, Auckland 1050
Ph: +64 9 520 3119, www.sibuns.co.nz:
RUSSELL, Vera Bessie, 19 Cathedral Place, Parnell died 18.6.1970 aged 74 at
Caughey Preston Hospital. Med. attendant Dr ARCHDALL. Funeral 20.6.1970 from
Our Chapel. Anglican. Ministers Dean JO RYMER & Bishop MONTEITH.
Casket Polished Mountings Silver Cremation. Hearse Yes. Flowers to Cornwall
Hospital. Funeral ordered by soninlaw Mr WS WITHERS of 18 Cathedral Place.
Next of kin Mr R RUSSELL (husb), 19 Cathedral Place, Parnell.
Death notice: RUSSELL, Vera Bessie 18.6.1970 at Caughey Preston Hospital,
dearly beloved wife of Rex and dearly beloved mother of Laurette (Mrs WS
WITHERS), beloved motherinlaw of Wynn, and loving grandmother of Russell, Kit
& Peter. A service will be held at 11am tomorrow Sat. at Watney Sibuns chapel,
funeral then leaving for Purewa Crematorium.
Death cert info above + Married at 22 in Auckland to Rex RUSSELL.
Vera aged 2 or 3 with Harry [35] c1899. Held by me.
Leslie?, Vera HALL & a young girl, possibly the eldest grandchild, Marjory
FARRAR b 1907 - from Henry & Laura's album now held by Geoff HALL.
Vera HALL c1907 - from Henry & Laura's album now held by Geoff HALL
Vera with parasol & book c1916.
Vera c19 & 2 sisters??, on the back "Vera Hall".
A portrait photo of Vera aged c20.
Vera crossing waterfall in long dress aged c20.
Vera c25.
Vera and a sister? with tennis racket?
Vera at the wheel of a fancy car. Her dad’s? What model is it?
I gave my daughter Adrianna her copy of 'Pilgrim's Progress', by John BUNYAN,
undated. London & Felling-on-Tyne, Walter Scott Publishing Co. Inscribed
"To Vera, from Mother with love 1908." Her mother was Elizabeth HALL nee
RATHBONE. Vera turned 11 that year. familysearch ID L6Q8-W8L
My email to family 14.7.2024: This day in 1897 Nana was born in Auckland, as
Vera Bessie Hall. Nana and poppa lived across the road at 19 Cathedral Place
and would be outside on their front terrace reading waiting to talk to Russell
and Peter and me as we walked home from Parnell school each day.
Christmas dinner would always be in their fancy dining room. On special
occasions we could persuade Nana to make us a chocolate log filled with whipped
cream and covered with chocolate icing and walnuts.
I have a very early memory of her taking something out of the oven visiting us
in the state house we had briefly before we moved into 18 Cathedral Place.
My next memory of her is underneath her clothesline. I was playing with
plasticine on the concrete but it melted in the sun to her annoyance.
Sometimes I'd play cards with Nana and Poppa. If he tried to cheat she would
tell him off! They had a gramophone before we did and I loved hearing the
musicals they played. Like The King and I.
As well as being the general manager of ABC, where Russell and I worked in our
highschool holidays in Khyber Pass, Poppa was a member of the Saint George's
Masons, of Newmarket Rotary Club, and a Steward for the Avondale Jockey Club.
This meant sometimes having to decide who won in a close race. It was an
honorary position he took very seriously. I inherited the binoculars he used
for the job. Going to the races was a very posh affair. Nana and Mum wore
gloves. Nana wore her Fox fur which creeped me out with its eyes and teeth. In
later years she wore a mink. I only remember joining them once. We ate fancy
food in a big tent.
As Nana’s eyes deteriorated, she would get me to thread her needle.
Today I still enjoy threading my needles and darning my socks!
When I was at Stanford she went into hospital for a minor complaint but fell
and broke her hip. I sent Money and two letters to an Auckland florist with
instructions to to send one letter with flowers one day and the other letter
with flowers a week later. But the florist sent both letters with only one
bouquet and I got a letter from Nana thanking me but showing her confusion.
Her writing had degenerated.
It was so painful to hear that she had died on 18.6.1970. Especially so as
I did not fly back for the funeral due to the expense.
When someone dies you don't stop loving them. I love my Nana so much!
Vera in her 40s.
……………………………………..
m 1916 Auckland sp-"Rex" Reginald Frank RUSSELL (28.2.1895 Whitstable, Kent
-22.8.1978 Auckland)
Death certificate: Reginald Frank RUSSELL retired company manager, aged 83;
of Selwyn Village, Pt. Chevalier; died 22.8.1978 at Christ's Private Hospital,
Pt. Chevalier; b 28.2.1895 at Whitstable, Kent; 66 years in NZ; son of Frank
Henry RUSSELL civil servant and Alice Olivia nee HARFORD; m1 at age 21 to Vera
Bessie HALL; m2 at age 79 to Robina Viola CREAGH formerly LYTTLE; cremated
24.8.1978 at Purewa; cause of death bronchopneumonia 4 days, Cor. Pulmonale
years, lung disease years; Watney Sibuns Sons funeral directors, Auckland.
He was advised to leave England for his health. Sailed from Port of London
to Wellington in 1912 on the Karamiko?. Worked on horseback as a salesman.
In 1927 lived at Maungawhau Rd, Newmarket. In 1935 an accountant at 1 Albury
Ave. Became General Manager of Associated Bottling Co., Khyber Pass,
Newmarket. President of Rotary Club. President of the Remuera Bowling Club.
Freemason: he was a Junior Warden of the Maungakiekie Lodge, No 373,
Auckland. "He was a very good ritualist & the first floor member in Ara's
100 year history to deliver ritual charges in the Lodge. This work had been
previously restricted to Past Masters who were far more experienced."
Steward, President? & Lifemember? of Avondale Racing Club.
They lived at Devonport and from c 1943 at 19 Cathedral Place, Parnell,
Auckland. After Vera died he remarried Robina CREAGH nee LYTTLE: they lived
at Selwyn Village, Auckland.
Information from staff@Sibuns.co.nz, 582 Remuera Road, Remuera, Auckland 1050
Ph: +64 9 520 3119, www.sibuns.co.nz:
RUSSELL, Reginald Frank, 38 Caswell [later rebuilt from 1 story to 6],
Selwyn Village, Pt Chevalier
died Christs Hospital, Selwyn Village aged 83 on 22.8.1978. Med. attendant
Dr LA SCRIVEN. Occupation Company Manager (retired). Date of funeral Thurs.
24.8.1978 from Holy Trinity Cathedral. Casket FL Mahogany, Wooden bar.
Anglican. Minister Very Rev Dean JO RYMER. Star & Herald. Scatter ashes at
Purewa. Funeral ordered by wife Mrs RV RUSSELL, 38 Caswell, Selwyn Village
Payment by Earl, Kent & Co. $654-20. Ashes scattered 22.5.1979.
Repeats info in death cert. above replacing Kent by Camberwell.
Married 1st in Auckland at 21 to Vera Bessie HALL, female issue living age 58.
Married 2nd in Auckland at 79 to Robina Viola CREAGH formerly LYTTLE; age 73.
Star & Herald: RUSSELL, Rex on Aug 23 1978 at Christs Hospital, SelwynVillage
dearly loved husband of Robina (Ena) of Caswell, Selwyn Village, & loved
step-father of Terry & Diana, Rosemary, Michael & Janice CREAGH & loved Uncle
Rex of their children, in his 84th year. A service will be held at Holy Trinity
Cathedral, Parnell at 1130am on Thursday, the funeral then leaving for Purewa
Crematorium. Cut flowers only please.
Vera nee HALL and Rex RUSSELL wearing masonic regalia around the time of their marriage. Looks like Laurette, Vera & Rex at the back of a car:
Vera and Rex on holiday. Rex wrote on the back:
'Sandy Bay the one at Tutukaka?] What did Mr DARZEY say? 20.3.1949' Beside them is a man & behind them a hop farm:
Rex & 4 managers at Speights. Rex wrote on the back:
'8.3.1949 A long journey for a long beer at Speights'.
Rex taken same time. He wrote on the back:
'11.3.1949 GM ABC [himself] & ditto ILT [cropped out], Invercargill'.
A stunning photo of Franz Joseph Glacier,
presumably taken or bought by Vera and Rex on holiday in the South Island 1949.
Vera and Rex by the Waikato 1949. Vera and Rex at Otira Gorge north of Arthur's Pass on holiday in the South Island. Rex wrote on the back 'Otira 18 Mar 49
The road is up there':
Vera and Rex pointing to a sign "Highest motoring road in NZ" on holiday in the South Island 1949.
Postcard 'Waihi PO Rosemont Road' </A><p
with 3 horse-drawn carriages. On the back Vera wrote 'Waihi Tues. Dearest Lol -
Arrived here yesterday by car - a lovely run - wouldnt like this life too long
- too much travelling - stayed Sun night at Frankton, Thur? Te Aroha, Paeroa
- now here - going on to Thames this afternoon & its raining like L -
so lonel without Laurette but am picking up again? I think . Have you seen Flo
& Bubs? Have written Flo. Hope all well. Love Vera.
Postcard 'Waihi PO Rosemont Road' with 3 horse-drawn carriages. On the back Vera wrote 'Waihi Tues. Dearest Lol -Arrived here yesterday by car - a lovely run - wouldnt like this life too long - too much travelling - stayed Sun night at Frankton, Thur? Te Aroha, Paeroa - now here - going on to Thames this afternoon & its raining like L -
so lonel without Laurette but am picking up again? I think . Have you seen Flo
& Bubs? Have written Flo. Hope all well. Love Vera.
Vera and Rex beside their car with a hotel and Mt Taranaki behind them.
Vera and Rex. Rex wrote '10.3.1949 Bluff. Where the road ends at Lands End.'
Vera pointing to a memorial, 'In grateful memory of Captain Arthur WAKEFIELD who landed here Oct 1841 when founding Nelson, & to record the coming of Riwaka's 1st pioneers who landed .. 1842. These millstones were cut out in 1844 By Wm MICKELL the pioneer flourmiller'. Rex wrote on back '20.3.1949 "Thats what its all about".
www.purewa.co.nz gives: Reginald Frank RUSSELL, Serial No. 34423
Date of Service 24 Aug 1978. Funeral Director Sibuns Funeral Advisors, 582 Remuera Road, Remuera, AUCKLAND. Ashes Disposal Returned.
** He has ID 32254 1 on our RUSSELL tree at 1. of
https://kitwithers.substack.com/p/russell-of-whitchurch-somerset
formerly at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kitwithers/russell/russell.html
See there for more photos of him & his family, & links to his CLAY, IDDENDEN,
LAWSON, DERRICK, HARDWICK, HARFORD and WADE ancestors.
See there also for their daughter 371 Laurette RUSSELL (1918-2010 Auckland),
her husband Wynn WITHERS, & link to their children (including me) at
DESCENDANTS OF EDWARD WITHERS (1788-1870 Berkshire)
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Rex has familysearch ID L6Q8-WZ8.
38 2-Leslie George HALL (1901 Auckland-1.9.1960) Buried with Morva at
Cheltenham Cemetery, Melbourne. (In the birthday book c1888 of 647 of
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kitwithers/rathbone/rathbone.html
there is an entry "LE Hall Sept 28." Possibly someone else.)
He enrolled 23.5.1910 at Devonport District School No. 9456 with his brother
Reg 45. Mum has his photo in military uniform c1915. He built houses.
He came to Australia is the 1930's and never went back to New Zealand. Flo [33]
kept in touch with him. Les aged c28:
Here again is the photo of Les with his father Henry taken 4.3.1921:
Geoff [381] has letters 17.3.1931 (the day Henry d) & 20.3.1931 to Leslie G
HALL c/ The PO, Manurewa from Douglas D VICKERMAN, Land & Estate agent &
valuer: "... with regard to the rate notice you have sent me in connection with
the farm, I had better pay this out of the next rent due on the 20th.
Geoff [381] has his postcard album. This includes a photo of "Cousin Olive,
Aunt Jennie's eldest girl, Stratford upon Avon R." Olive and Jenny are
6471 Olive Jeannie PASHLEY b 1891 Birmingham, and 647 Sarah Jane "Jenny"
RATHBONE b1863 Sheffield, of rathbone/rathbone.html
Some bio from Geoff: Les came to Oz about 1935. Quite a dapper chap, he
always dressed well. He was very entrepreneurial. He won a contract to Myer to
make mousetraps & skipping rope handles. He started AM HALL & Co, a real
estate business in Camberwell (his mother's initials). He made a kitset dinghy
- Meiers ordered 50.
He had a bach at Rye on the Mornington peninsula. Les built a Canadian canoe
when Geoff was 8. Then a 12' klinker (a ship's pinnace) of kauri with a gaff
rigging. Later Geoff rebuilt it 3 times.
In 1939 Les joined up for WW2. He was barracked in Victoria then went to
defend Darwin. He was debunked in 1945, coming out ill. But it took years for
his widow to get a war pension.
Morva's niece Graeme REES-JONES met Les in Melbourne at the end of WW2, &
called Les Pop after Popeye, to distinguish him from Morva's brother Les.
After Geoff was born, Graeme came to live with them in Camberwell. Graeme did
the bookwork & found that Les had been swindled of a large sum of money by 2
colleagues.
When Geoff was 15 he & his dad rebuilt a 1947 Morris Minor together.
Les had a series of businesses. He sold Vauxhalls in Seymour. He was
hospitalized several times. "Mum wouldnt drive so I drove 50 miles in school
uniform to see Dad in hospital." Les died 1960 in Heisenberg military hospital
after his leg was drained with tubes & leeches. He had a bad heart.
……………………………………………………………….
m 17.12.1941 Melbourne by her br'inlaw Will MATHERS sp-Alwyn Morva REES
b 28.11.1908 Horsham, Victoria, Oz d 24.6.1972 Melbourne. She came from a
comfortable farming family with a 100,000 acre farm, The Oaks, at Brimbayn,
near Horsham, Victoria. Morva was the youngest of 9 sons & 1 dr & has ID 10
on p24 of "Descendants of Thomas (1830-1918) & Hannah (1834-77) REES 1854-1980"
by Jill MCDONALD, Glencoe P Bag 143, Horsham, Vic 3400.
……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
381 3-Geoffrey Leslie HALL (26.2.1945 Mt Albert, Victoria, Oz)
c1976 Cheltenham, Melbourne, Australia.
He has his grandfather's 1879 travel diary kept on his trip from England to
Auckland on the barque LEBU. Charmaine has typed it & I’ll put it on this site shortly. Geoff also has old family albums, postcard photos of Denton, a lodge certificate from Royal Order of Foresters for Henry HALL and many other family treasures. Some bio: Geoff went to Carey Grammar in Kew,
Melbourne. Les wante Geoff to be an engineer but Geoff liked drawing. He did a
commercial art course. After Les died he moved to Highatt public school in
Melbourne then became an apprentice motor mechanic at City Brakes, Beaumaris,
Vic. then at 2way Motors where his leg was crushed in an accident. After rehab
in Kew he learned to walk again & at 21 was put in charge of 22 men at the
Melbourne branch. He married Charmaine & repiled their first home in
Sandringham. He joined a cabinet making business & built some elaborate
furniture. He started boat building, & built 40-50' yachts at Williamstown,
Vic. He became resident shipwright at Hobsons Bay Yacht Club, where he rebuilt
a 50' timber boat, The Idler c1977. It was an ex pilot cutter about 90 years
old. The Yacht Club Commodore, an ex Master Mariner, took it on an ardous
voyage thru Philips Head, where it foundered & sank.
Geoff built yachts all over Vic. c1972-75.
He helped fund Deep Purple to Oz for the Sunbury Pop
Festival & stage managed them. Later he brought out Queen & ran a series of
dances. He built a 42' yacht in a client front yard at Sunshine Beach, Noosa.
He built Cooters until the Tax Dept tax stopped that. He had a cabinetmaker
business Licence To Joinery, then a kitchen shop in Noosa, The Cooking Company.
Then restaurants? Retirement & The Stock Market, & the present Coconut Grove.
In 1967 Geoff had a 1946 MG TC. Geoff built a yacht Galadriel. At
one time Rob THORNTON was living on it & had been gill fishing in its dingy.
But police couldnt board the yacht without the captain's permission (Geoff's)
as the yacht was registered with Lloyds.
His current boat Salt Aire is a 48' power boat. After closing Australia
Boat Building, he did concept & design for dozens of restaurants & shops in
Noosa, including these restaurants: Sales, Rococcos, Barnardos & Sheraton Beach
(gone now). He also designed, built & renovated houses.
Geoff has 1500 phantom comics.
1st contact 13.5.2005. 2009: tel 07 5447 5404 Noosa, cell 0417 475 404
Box 449 Noosa Heads, Qld 4567 geoffandchar@ozemail.com.au
………………………………………………
m 12.4.1969 Cheltenham, Melbourne, Vic. sp-Charmaine Anne CLARKE 9.9.1948
Melbourne.
Photos of their home at 28 Arkana Drive, Noosa Heads are in the photogallery at
www.dowlingneylan.com.au
http://www.dowlingneylan.com.au/html/for-sale/35/446/noosa-heads
Thumbnails from there:
Geoff wrote (21.1.09): We have had an incredibly busy year with the purchase
and refurbishment of a restaurant called COCONUT GROVE BAR BISTRO at
8/46 Duke St, Sunshine Beach, 4567 tel 07 5449 2333.
Check out our website www.coconutgrovebistro.com. We also had a trip to
France for Char's birthday in September which was fantastic.
We also have a cruising motor launch called Saltaire which we go north on
whenever we can, usually to the Whitsunday Islands although not as often as we
would like now that we have the restaurant.
We have our house in Noosa on the market at the moment...
- That link includes a photo of them. Their restaurant is at 8/46 Duke St,
Sunshine Beach, Queensland 4567; ph 07 5449 2333.
I had the pleasure of meeting Geoff & Charmaine 8-10.5.09 at Noosa & his
maternal cousin Graham g.rees-jones@westnet.com.au
Kit, Charmaine & Geoff HALL at their restaurant Coconut Grove 8.5.09.
There home is on the market & here is a link to photos of it:
http://www.dowlingneylan.com.au/html/for-sale/35/446/gallery/noosa-heads
4 1-Sarah Ann HALL (b 20.6.1856 at 6 Rowcroft Place, Stockport, Chester)
freebmd: Births Jun 1856 HALL Sarah Ann Ashton 8d 489.
Here is her birth certificate: father - George HALL, hatter journeyman; <br>
mother - Elizabeth HALL formerly COOKE;
informant George HALL father of 6 Rowcroft Place, Stockport; registered 28.7.1856.
George's signature on the original certificate -courtesy of Stockport Register Office.
(1861 census has another SAH b 1856 Stockport to James & Mary!)
1871 census: age 15; hat trimmer in Denton with her parents and brother John.
Sarah Ann HALL c1875 - from collection of Geoff HALL.
Henry & Sarah HALL c1875 - from Henry & Laura's album now held by Geoff HALL.
1881 census with husband below b 1858 Cheshire.
1901 census widow - see after her m.
1916 diary of Harry HALL [35]: she is Aunt Sarah Ann: Mrs J LONGWORTH,
No. 8 Flaxton Rd, Plumstead Common, Woolwich, England. (Woolwich is on the
south bank of the Thames east of Greenwich.)
Geoff [381] has several photos of her in Henry's photo album, labelled
"Sister Sarah an Hall 1853"; "H HALL & Sister Sarahan Hall 1855" - on the back:
Th. M WATERS photographer 380 Stockport Rd, Manchester; "My sister Sarah Ann
1918" - reverse: "to my dear brother & sister with love from sister Sarah Ann",
CW ASH Electric Studio, 48 Powis St, Woodwich - she is aged c60.
familysearch ID LT5F-879
…………………………………………………………………………………
m Sep qtr 1875 St Paul's church, Portwood, Stockport,Cheshire (ref St11/3/224
- cert. available ex Stockport Registrar) sp-John LONGWORTH b 1853 Denton,
Lancs; b regd Dec Qtr 1851 Ashton 20/45 - VL. d 1881-1901
The nearest I see in IGI is in C007135 1847-57:
JL bp 14 MAY 1855 Saint John, Preston, Lancs to John & Hannah.
Marriage regd Stockport GRO ref vol. 8a p99 found at freebmd.rootsweb.com/
Joiner on 1906 m cert of dr Gertrude 22 below. Death regd December Qtr 1887
Ashton 8d382 - VL vera.longworth@virgin.net 2005. Vera is doing a One Name
Study of LONGWORTH.
1881 census Dwelling 153 Holland St, Denton, Lancashire:
Name Relation Marital Status Age Birthplace Occupation ID
John LANGWORTH Head M 28 1853 Denton, Lancashire Joiner
Sarah A. LANGWORTH Wife M 23 1858 Cheshire Hat Trimmer 4
John LANGWORTH Son 2 1879 Denton, Lancashire Scholar 41
Gertrude LANGWORTH Daur 8m .7.1880 Denton, Lancashire 42
(1881 also lists 67 LONGWORTH in London/Middlesex, 0 in Woolwich, 64 in
Midlands West covering Sheffield.)
John died in 1887 in Manchester aged 35; his widow and surviving children
moved to London sometime between 1887 and 1901. -VL.
1891 7 Melburne St, Denton, Lancashire: ID
Sarah Ann LONGWORTH Head W 32 1859 Stockport, Cheshire Hat Trimmer 4
John LONGWORTH Son S 12 1879 Denton, Lancashire Scholar 41
Gertrude LONGWORTH Daur S 10 1881 Denton, Lancashire Scholar 42
Willie LONGWORTH Son S 8 1883 Denton, Lancashire Scholar 43
1901 Haydock Road, Deptford St Paul, London ex VL: ID
Sarah Ann LONGWORTH Head W 43 1858 Stockport, Cheshire [No occpn] 4
John LONGWORTH Son S 22 1879 Denton, Lancashire Silk hat shaper 41
Gertrude LONGWORTH Daur S 20 1881 Denton, Lancashire Felt hat trimmer 42
William LONGWORTH Son S 18 1883 Denton, Lancashire Wheelwright 43
Fred KINDER Boarder S 25 1876 Gee Cross, Cheshire Menchanic turner sp-42
familysearch ID LT5F-XF3 son of Peter.
41 2-John "Jack" LONGWORTH (1879 Denton, Lancashire) b regd Sept Qtr 1878
Ashton vol 8d p 545 - VL. 1881 with parents. 1891-1901 with mother.
1901 silk hat shaper.
42 2-Gertrude LONGWORTH (b c July 1880 Denton, Lancashire)
Birth regd Sept Qtr 1880 Ashton 8d 520 - VL. (Ref Den/27/2 Tameside Registrar
-SS) 1881 with parents. 1891-1901 with mother. 1901 Felt Hat Trimmer.
………………………………………..
m 14.4.1906 Walthamstow Parish Church [St Marys], Essex [north London, E17]
sp-Fred KINDER b 1876 Gee Cross, Cheshire.
freebmd: b Sep qtr 1875 Stockport 8a 22. # He has ID 1125 in family at 17.1 below.
I have m cert: he 30 bachelor turner son of Hugh KINDER hatter;
she 25 spinster dr of John LONGWORTH joiner; both residing at 41 Winchester Rd
witnesses John LONGWORTH & Emily MATHERS; after banns by curate C J WATKINS
Marriage regd June Qtr 1906 West Ham 4a 344 - VL. Not at freebmd 2005 Jan.
To get to St Marys, take the Victoria Line to the last stop at Walthamstow
Central,then it's 5 minures walk up St Mary Road and through the footpath at
the top,or walk up Church Hill and turn right at the top. - Norman B.
For a sketch & map of St Marys, Church End (E of Walthamstow tube station),
see http://www.findachurch.co.uk/churches/tq/tq38/stmarys/
For Walthamstow see http://www.london-footprints.co.uk/wkwalthamstow.htm
http://www.hmsweb.co.uk/html/yourstories.html
http://www.walthamstow.towntalk.co.uk/mainmap.php
http://www.musicland26.freeserve.co.uk/index2.html rich@.freeserve.co.uk
or richard@musicland26.freeserve.co.uk 2005
1901 population was 97,000.
A 1904 postcard of St Mary's from Richard. And another:
And one of its tower taken 2004 by Richard:
I also have info on the history of the church from Richard stored at
StMarys1.jpg & StMarys2.jpg from a publication "Walthamstow Village" by AD LAW,
AMA published by the Walthamstow Antiquarian Society, probably in the 1970's.
Thanks Norman B. In 2005 there are no KINDER in Walthamstow.
freebmd gives a huge no. of possible chn - but does not give parents.
It gives no chn in West Ham district, where their 1906 m was registered
- presumably because they have not been entered yet, as the m does not show
there.
43 2-William LONGWORTH b 1883 Denton, Lancashire.
Birth regd September Qtr 1882 Ashton 8d 495 - VL.
1891-1901 Gertrude & William are with Gertrude's mother. 1901 wheelwright.
m regd March Qtr 1913 West Ham, London 4a 314 sp-Daisy HM GALE ex VL.
44 2-Arthur LONGWORTH Birth regd March Qtr 1887 Ashton 8d 511 - VL.
Death regd Dec Qtr 1887 Ashton 8d 387 - VL.
5 1-William HALL b .7.1860 Stockport, Cheshire
1861 census with parents: U 8 months 1860 b Stockport, Cheshire
1871 census not with parents so may have died.
??1881 Dwelling Wrigley Mill, Saddleworth, Yorkshire:
William HALL Boarder U 21 b Cheshire Iron Moulder with Rbt WINTERBOTTOM & fam
familysearch ID LT5F-87B
6 1-John James `Jack' HALL b c1866 Denton, Lancashire
(freebmd gives
Births Jun 1864 HALL John James Stockport 8a 23 for Cheshire
Births Mar 1867 HALL John James Liverpool 8b 248 for Lancs
Birth Sep 1876 HALL John James Ashton 8d 521; the
John HALLs b nearest to 1866 in Ashton are in 1864 & 1870.)
1871-81 with parents. 1881 Warehouse Boy.
John James HALL c1896 - from collection of Geoff HALL.
1901 census - see wife below.
c1916: When Harry [35 below] went to serve in WW1 his mother wrote "Your uncle
John HALL who is in France, 2400 [private] JJ HALL EFCASC c/ of Officer in
charge, Boulogne Base, France ..." In the back of Harry's diary is "JJ HALL
2400 Pte c/o officer in charge, Exp. Canteen Force, BOULOGNE".
1916: From harry_to_vera_txt: Monday August 14th 1916 8am.
I am now in CODFORD on Salisbury Plains. Uncle is a real good chap and Dad's
double in profile only much smaller." - That this is John becomes clear from
Harry's entry for Thursday 24th August 1916 8.30am.
His address on p -2 of Harry's diary was
Uncle Jack: Mr John James HALL, 99 Drayton Gardens, S. Kensington, London SW
There is also an entry in Harry's WW1 diary:
"Grandparents & Gt.Gd. parents' graves (on Mum's side), Met AUNTS RUTH, MAUD,
COUSINS MAGGIE & UNCLE JACK's two lads. Saw bomb effects."
This Uncle Jack does not look like his mother's brother
"64(13) 3-"Jack" John Silas RATHBONE, (1878 June qtr Eccleshall Brierlow)
m in South Africa sp-Olga JACKSON (Swiss) No children."
Geoff [381] has photos by? NT BACON on the Thames?: 1 of Jack in uniform,
another of Jack & wife & Harry [35].
Geoff HALL [381] has postcards from Jack to Henry [3]: (1) "France 1917. My
very dear brother & family, I am always pleased to hear from you. Your letters
are so interesting to me. I have no news I am am? am form? .. family well. We
are on the eve of another winter & your prediction of 1914, viz The war would
last 5 years, is coming true. The horrors of it all is everpresent. No time to
write letter. Fond love, Jack. All good wishes." (2) from 3rd Northern
Hospital, Sheffield.
Hankerchief sent by Jack to Henry HALL from France in WW1 - from Henry's album.
Jack at tea, in WW1 uniform - from Henry & Laura's album.
Greetings from the 3rd General Hospital, Sheffield - presumably from Jack to Henry.
familysearch ID LT5F-61K
m Mar qtr 1894 Camberwell sp-Sarah Louisa A MERCHANT b1869 Birmingham.
- ex freebmd.
??1891 Bromborough, Cheshire with HALLIWELL family:
John HAll boarder 25 1866 Manchester, Lancashire Farmans labourer
??1891 Adwick upon Dearne, Doncaster:
John HALL Head M 27 1864 Denton, Lancashire Coal miner
Sarah HALL Wife M 24 1867 Denton, Lancashire
Anice Hall daur S 5 1886 Denton, Lancashire
Hannah Eliz. HALL daur S 3 1888 Shroggs, Yorkshire
James E HALL Son S 9 mth 1890 Shroggs, Yorkshire
1901 19 Avenue Rd,St Mary,West Ward, Southend on Sea, Prittlewell, Essex:ID
John Jas. HALL Head M 36 1865 Denton, Lanc Hat Shaper Silk 6
Sarah L A HALL Wife M 32 1869 Birmingham, Staff're
Margory L HALL Daur S 6 1895 Dulwich, Surrey 61
Bertha NERINDER visitor M 45 Islington, London [Her m not found at freebmd]
Bertha F NERINDER visitor S 14 Islington, London
William H NERINDER visitor 7 Starnton? Hill, Middx
Gertrude L NERINDER visitor 4 Sidcup Kent
[NOT 1901 Hill St, Hasbury, Worcestershire:
John Hall Head M 29 1872 Harcrown?, Worc. Nail maker
Sarah Hall Wife M 33 1868 Birmingham, Warick
Florence Hall Daur S 3 1898 Hasbury, Worc
Sarah Elizabeth Hall Daur S 2 1899 Hasbury, Worc.]
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
61 2-Margery Louise HALL b 1895 Dulwich, London
(Dulwich is in the Camberwell regn district.)
freebmd: Margery Louise HALL b regd Mar qtr 1895 Camberwell 1d 868.
1901 census with parents.
She sent Harry F HALL [35] many photos of herself. She and her father gave a
lot of hospitality to Harry: see his diary entries & letters to Vera for
1916: 10.2 20.2 4.3 29.3 5.5 11.5 22.5 8.6 19.6 26.6 29.6 10.8 18.8 19.8 20.8
24.8 12.9 15.10 3.11 and for
1917: c19.1 18.2.
Her address on p -1 of his diary was
Miss Marjery HALL, 99 Drayton Gardens, S Kensington, London SW.
m ? a diplomat - they went to South Africa according to Vera.
freebmd gave no m's for Margery Louise HALL but then in 2008 m's for Margery HALL include
Marjory M HALL m Mar Q 1923 St.Geo.H.Sq., London 1a 800 sp- THOMPSON
Margery E HALL m Jun Q 1927 St.Martin, London 1a 1230 sp-Charles E G HARRISON
7? 1-Alice HALL? of London.
"Aunt Alice" appears in photo with Margery [51] in London; she is more likely
to be a sister of [5] John James HALL than of Aunt Louie. Not found in IGI.
2.1 WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?
Two HALL girls aged c8, but which?
Who is this young man in puttees - WW1? - from Vera's collection.
Who is this young woman with plaits & blue eyes? From Vera. Vera had brown eyes.
What is the relevance of this photo of "Young Aucklanders' Shakespeare Club
1915"? Presumably one of these is Vera or a sister - from Vera's collection.
Is this one of Henry & Laura HALL's girls aged c10? - from their album.
Who is this woman? - from Henry & Laura's album.
Who is this older woman & girl? - from Henry & Laura's album.
Who are these 9 young women?- from Henry & Laura's album.
Is this one of Henry & Laura's son-in-laws? - from Henry's album.
Is this [33] Flo or [34] Evie? - from Vera.
3. ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS & SOURCES
GH Geoff HALL for sharing so many family treasures.
His wife Charmaine for typing up Henry's ship diary on the LEBU.
DW Dorothy WALKER for b date for 3 Henry HALL. See rathbone.html for more.
EP Elaine PICKARD etpickard@home.com 2001
KT 3222-sp Kay TRAYES Thanks Kay for all your contributions!
3215 Jane GARRETT for info she gave KT.
4. SURNAMES AND THEIR FIRST APPEARANCE
Maiden names are indented.
Askew 31 in 3861 Wakapuaka
Beca 3635w
Biggar 3411
Bracegirdle 3632
Brambley 33 m1 1909 Auckland
Bregmen 321 in 1935 Auckland
Brooker 3632h2
Brown 3423 in 1981 Takapuna
Buchanan 321
Burroughs 32113 in 1987 Te Mata
Cadness 342 in 1950 Takapuna
Carmichael 323 in 1940 Auckland
Cocker 3321 m1 c1963 Auckland or Tonga?
Coley 3414 in 1975 Upper Hutt
Congdon 32123 in 1989 Hamilton
Cooke 0
Daubney 32142 in 1993 Hamilton
Dent 32121 in 1979 Te Mata
Dick 3421 in 1975 Auckland
Duffy 32111 in 1998
Duncan 3412 in 1970 Upper Hutt
Espie 3413 in 1970 Upper Hutt
Eastham 31
Farrar 32 in 1906 Auckland
Foote 311 m2 in 1949 Auckland
Frain 33211 in 1994 Thailand
Francis 363
Frederick 33 m2
Fry 31121 in 1990 Motueka
Garrett 3215 in 1972 Hamilton, [34111 in 1993 Upper Hutt]
Gatenby 3112 in 1968 Auckland
Given 3211 in 1961 Te Mata
Glen 321 Te Mata 1966
Hall 0
Harford 1988 Auckland
Harwood 33212 c1989 USA
Haslam 3113 in 1969 Auckland
Henderson 3222 in 1983 Auckland
Hodge 32
Hogan 3613 in 1988 Auckland
Howland 3312 in 1985 Auckland?
Hudson 3623 in 1991 Whangaparoa
Hurst 32141 Hamilton 1995
Illingworth 311321 in 1993 Auckland
Inoke 3221-m1 1970 Auckland
Keegan 3633
KINDER 22 b 1876 Gee Cross, Cheshire
King 3611 3611 in 1973 Titirangi
Kingi 311
Leathwick 3621 in 1955 Warkworth
Longworth 2 London 1916
Lowe 3322 1962 Auckland
Marks 3232 m1 1971 Papatoetoe
Martin 32122 c1982 Te Mata
Mason 31131 in 2000 Hastings
McCarthy 361 in 1949 Auckland?
McCormack 34213 in 2000 Takapuna
McDivitt 3621 in 1985 Whangarei
McLeod 36 in 1923 Tuakau
Miller 311 in 1922 Woodend
Mills in 1984 Hamilton
Nevill 3612 in 1973 Warkworth
Newton 3212 in 1960 Te Mata
Parsons 3111 in 1942 Pirongia, 32114 in 1999 Hamilton
Preston 331 in 1947 Auckland
Rathbone 3
Reid 332 c1936 Auckland
Richardson 3613 in 1977 Papakura
Rollinson 3113 1997
Romaine 311m2
Russell 37 in 1916 Auckland
Selkirk 3422 c1975 Takapuna
Smith 32112 in 1988 Hamilton
Sommerville 3421 m2 1975 Takapuna
Sonneland 3412 m2 c1988 Marlborough
Soper c1990 Hamilton
[Sparks witness 1877 to m of Henry & Laura]
Stubbs 362 in 1960s Auckland
Swager 3424 in 1980 Takapuna
Thornley 3311 in 1977 Auckland?
Trayes 322 in 1933 Auckland, 34 1890 Coromandel
Tucker 331 in 1939 Takapuna
Turner 3214
Turpin 3213 in 1969 Hamilton
Walker 341 in 1940 Auckland
Williamson 34h
Wilson 33 m2 1928 Auckland
Woodford in 1991 Hamilton
5. PLACE NAMES AND THEIR APPEARANCE
The numbers refer to the HALL tree above, except those starting R refer
to the RATHBONE tree, & those starting A to the ASKEW tree at "7." below.
A slash / after the person's number indicates that the person has moved from
that place or has died.
**AUSTRALIA
New South Wales, Mossvale 3322/; Sydney 3321/
Queensland, Cairns 3636
Victoria, Melbourne, Cheltenham 381
Western Australia, Perth 32133; Port Hedland 3221-m2/
**CANADA Nova Scotia 36w/
**ENGLAND - yet to sort by county
Birmingham See Query a.
Cambridge 34111/
*CHESHIRE/LANCASHIRE
DENTON was in Cheshire but was taken over by Manchester, Lancs. It lies on the
border of these 2 counties. It is c5 miles SE of Manchester today and comes
under Greater Manchester. By 1891 the were under LANCASHIRE prior to that
CHESHIRE. Denton, (CHS), Greater Manchester is c30 miles from Sheffield.
(This Denton is much more likely to have a hatter working there than Denton
Otley. That Denton is a very small place on the edge of the Yorkshire Moors.
Not somewhere to practice being a hatter. - EP 2001.) 0 in 1871
Try www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/newsletter/ewm326.html for photos and
references for Denton! </A> <pre> They include
"Denton and Haughton" compiled by Jill Cronin and Denton Local History Society
Jill Cronin telephone 0161 336 3989. 4 Romford Ave, Denton M34 3EJ
"The History of Denton and Haughton" by Thomas Middleton 1936
"Tameside in old photographs" Alice Locke (Tameside Borough Publicatinos)
"A History of the Pubs of Denton and Haughton", Frank Rhodes
telephone: 0161 320 6857: 3 Maple Ave Denton M34 3QU
"Denton Voices" oral recollections of local people, compiled by Jill Cronin and
Brian Pilcher
Also: "Looking Back at Denton"
Further information about Denton can be found on the Tameside website
www.tameside.gov.uk This shows a map of the area & lots of links!
One can click on Denton there. For example this gives
DENTON LIBRARY, Peel Street, Denton M343JY tel 0161 336 8234
or tel 0161 320 3202, Fax 0161 337 8931
EMail: denton.library@mail.tameside.gov.uk
www.tameside.gov.uk/leisure/new/lh02.htm
Another book is:
"Denton : then and now" compiled by Denton Local History Society, Manchester.
Publisher: Stroud : Tempus, 1999. 96 p. : ill., ports. ; 24 cm.
ISBN: 0752418394(pbk.)
For a map and genealogy info see
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Haughton/
The Manchester & Lancashire Family History Society office@mlfhs.demon.co.uk
http://www.mlfhs.demon.co.uk/ They will publish the 1891 census index in 2001.
They have the 1851 census on fiche. John Marsden, General Secretary wrote 2001:
These are deposited at LDS but they are in BOOK form and so they will
not supply to local centres...surname indexes only and not full transcriptions.
We can supply all titles mail order - see the web site - bookshop pages.
Had the name been very unusual, I could have done a search but there
will be too many HALL entries to make this viable. I can only suggest you
employ a local researcher and I attach some addresses below:
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8JE
STOCKPORT [0,2,3,4,5] 1851-58 Stockport,Cheshire/Lancs
*NOTTINGHAMSHIRE
BAWTRY 1828-9 Pigot's Natl Commerical Directory p101: Saxon (bar - a boat,
try - harbour) on River Idle, good inns, 2 dissenting churches, 2 almshouses.
Thurs market. 2 fairs for horses & cattle. Population 1821 - 1027. Contains no
COOKE. p113 Nottingham COOKE Hy & Co 38,35; Rbt linendraper 21,
Samuel shopkeeper 27, Thomas brazier 8, Thomas grocer 16.
*YORKSHIRE has 3 Ridings:
Riding meant 'third' as in a fraction of one third, so by definition you
cannot have four of them!
They are geographical divisions of Yorkshire, and I suspect it was because
of old history and the fact that it is such a large county. The old 'county
town' of the North Riding was Northallerton, of the East Riding I think
Beverley and Wakefield for the West Riding. Interesting to see that all
three places are now so much smaller than several of the modern cities in
the county. -Judith Pitchforth, Hon Secretary, Sheffield and District FHS
http://www.sheffieldfhs.org.uk
Denton NW of Ilkley (of Ilkley Moor Ba Tat fame - Do you know the song?),
N of Bradley, NW of Leeds, in West Riding in parish of Otley (the town Otley
is c20m SW of Denton).
See http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Otley/index.html
including a photo of St Helen's church in Denton
courtesy of Garry STOCKDILL of http://www.yorksview.co.uk/
Why does the Abstract of Population Census 1821 for West Riding of Yorkshire
at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Census/CensusNotesWRY1821.html
show most houses empty?! Why does Denton not rate a mention?
Hallam - see Nether-Hallam
London 3, 5?, 33212 37-sp/
Nether-Hallam See wife of 3, Laura RATHBONE. Sheffield. This place, like
Upperthorpe, was apparently centred around St Mary's C of E. For more on this
area, see Walkley under "14. Links."
Sheffield,Yorkshire (1871 census has been indexed - get from LDS) See 1.
Upperthorpe: hamlet in the parish of Sheffield and the township
of Nether-Hallam; 1m from Sheffield according to Langdale's 1822 Topographical
Dictionary of Yorkshire; today it is 2-3 km N of the centre of Sheffield,
next to Birkendale; 0
Yorkshire Dales 34112/
**FRANCE 35/
**HONGKONG 3321/ 33211
**MALAYSIA 33212/
**NEW ZEALAND
Algies Bay - see Warkworth
Arkles Bay - see Whangaparoa
Auckland (-see also Manurewa, Milford, Muriwai, North Shore, Papakura,
Papatoetoe, Waiheke)
3/ 31/ 311-m2/ 3112/ 31121/ 3113/ 31131/ 31132/ 32/ 32114 3232 324/
33/ 3321/ 3323 331-m2/ 34/ 34132/ 35/ 36/ 37/
371 3711 37113 37114 37115 3712/ 3713/ 38/
R22 1918, A2221 1995,
Cambridge 32113
Christchurch 32121-sp/ 3213
Coromandel 34h
Devonport - see North Shore, Auckland
Dunedin 34h
Durville Island 34124/
French Pass, Marlborough 3412
Hamilton 3111 32111 32112 3212 32121 321211 321212 32123 32141 32142 37122/
Hastings 31131
Havlock South 34123/
Hawera, S Taranaki 3633h?
Leigh, 25km NE of Warkworth 3113
Lower Hutt 3411 34131/ 3414 34141 34142
Kaipara Flats, NW of Warkworth 3611
Matakana, 10km NE of Warkworth 3611/
Manurewa 3/
Mangatangi or Maraetai - see Pokeno
Milford, Auckland 3215
Mokau near Hikurangi near Whangarei 361h/
Mount Maunganui 32122 341
Motueka 3112 31121
Muriwai 3412m1/
Napier 3323/
Nelson 311-m2 31122 34125/, A0 1843,
New Plymouth 311-m2/ 363 3632 3633 3634
Ngaio Bay, French Pass, Marlborough 3412
North Shore, Auckland 31/ 31131/ 31132 311321 332 3322 33221 3311 3312
341/ & children/ 34121/ 34122/ 342 342w 3421
3422 3423 3424 3635 3623 37111 37112 37131, A111887,
Okaihau near Kaikohe 311/
Orewa, N of Auckland 36112
Owairaka (near Bombay, Auckland ?) 32 in 1938
Palmerston North 34132
Papakura 3613/ 36131/
Paparoa, near New Plymouth? 3632/ 3633/ 3634/
Papatoetoe R1123 1971-78
Pokeno 3214
Raglan, W of Hamilton - see also Te Mata (in Hamilton ph directory) 3211
Rawene 31/ 311/
Rothsay Bay 361/
Rotorua 323
Snell's Beach, Warkworth 361
Tauhoa, Warkworth 3623
Te Kawhata, Waikato 3214
Te Mata, Raglan 321/ 3212/
Ti Point, Warkworth 31131
Tuakau, N of Waikato Heads,W of Pokeno 361/
Upper Hutt 3411w 34111 34112 34113 3413/ 3414/
Waiheke Island, Auckland Harbour 3713
Waiuku 3413
Wakapuaka, Nelson 31/
Wanganui 32113/
Warkworth (N of Auckland -see Tauhoa) 3113 36/ 361/ 3611 3612 3613 362 3622
Wellington (-see also Lower Hutt, Upper Hutt) 32131 3412/ 36111/
371/ 3712 37121 37122, A21-2112 c1923-95,
Whakatane 3631
Whangaparoa 322/ 3221 3222
Whangarei 322-sp/ 363/
**NORTHERN IRELAND 37121/
**SCOTLAND Isles of Harris & Lewis 36w/
**SOUTH AFRICA 31
**TONGA 3321/
**UNITED STATES R12 c1910
California, Palo Alto 3712/
6. HALL CLUES AND OTHER HALL SEARCHERS - yet to upload
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kitwithers/hallclues.html
7. THE ASKEW TREE - re 31 of 2. - AN EXCERPT
0 0-William ASKEW (21.4.1797-11.9.1873)
m sp-Elizabeth HIGHAM (23.1.1803-12.12.1882)
They arrived Nelson 5.2.1843 on the Indus.
1 1-Thomas ASKEW (1826-1875)
m sp-Reubena RANKIN
11 2-James ASKEW (9.8.1861 Wakapuaka,Nelson-29.6.1952)
m1 1887 Devonport sp-Mary Alice EASTHAM
m2 sp-Laura Louise HALL (-3.1.1953)
** See 31 on HALL tree at 2. above for descendants **
2 1-Joseph ASKEW
m?
21 2-Hughie ASKEW (-c1973 Wellington) Sailed a keelboat the Atlanta,
the fastest in Wellington at the time c 1923. Married 3 times.
211 3-Bruce ASKEW Wellington ph 04 388 7615/04 386 3381 Designs yachts.
m sp-Dawn
2111 4-Jane ASKEW
2112 4-John ASKEW Wellington work 04 386 3381 Has a sailmaking business.
2113 4-Robert ASKEW
2114 4-Geoffrey ASKEW
212 3-Margaret ASKEW
m sp-HASTINGS
213 3-Dawn ASKEW
m sp-GIBBINS
22 2-
221 3-Owen Wemyss ASKEW b 1921 d 7.11.2000 Auckland Hospital at 79.
m sp-Hazel
* Since 1995: 75 Mt Smart Rd, Onehunga, Auckland 6 ph 09 636 9040
2211 4-David ASKEW m/df Suzanne Chn Sarah & Laura, Grandchild Viarn
2212 4-Ruth ASKEW m/df Nick Chn Jade & Kane
SOURCES: 2112 John ASKEW, & 221 Owen & Hazel ASKEW. Obit of 221 Owen.
How does the following fit in?
Eileen ASKEW bc1897 bur Waipa Cem. 1985 age 88
m 1917 (Thomas Josiah) Leslie RATHBONE b.3 june 1891 Qld d1985, bur Waipa Cem.
He is 6453 of
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kitwithers/rathbone/rathbone.html
8. THE BRAMBLEY TREE - re 33 of 2. - An excerpt
From Donald MCFADZEAN [DF]: Pratts Rd, RD 3, Drury, Auckland 1750;
tel 09 294 8206. He is also related on the TRAYES side: see 11. below.
0 0-William BRAMBLEY m 13.3.1779 Bramshott, Hampshire sp-Audrey HOLT
5 1-Barnet BRAMBLEY (24.9.1798 Headley,Hampshire)
m 24.8.1822 Headley Hampshire sp-Elizabeth STACEY
56 2-William James BRAMBLEY (2.5.1841 Bramshott,Hampshire-13.11.1901 Auckland)
carter
m 9.4.1871 Bramshott sp-Sarah Jane PORTER 1851 Hamps-10.12.1922 Auckland)
567 3-George BRAMBLEY (1885 NZ-1951)
m Florence Henrietta HALL (13 of our HALL tree in 2. above)
56(10) 3-Percy Richard BRAMBLEY (30.6.1893 Auckland-28.2.1917 France) 2nd
Lieutenant of the 1st Battalion, Auckland Regiment, killed WW1, died at the 1st
Canadian Casualty Clearing Station in the field from wounds received in action.
Buried at the Bailleul Cemetery, France (28.S,14c). DF sent me his war record
& other BRAMBLEY bmd certificates 12.6.2000.
Both Percy and George are referred to in Harry HALL's diary at harry_to_vera.txt
This photo by KT shows his name in the Hall of Memories Auckland War Memorial
Museum.
56(11) 3-Lucy BRAMBLEY (15.7.1894 Auckland-29.7.1973 Auckland)
m 22.3.1916 Auckland sp-Arthur John MCFADZEAN (9.9.1885 Fitzroy,Vic-1961 Auck.)
grandparents? of Donald.
9. COOKE re wife of 0 at 2.
9.1 Our COOKE family of Bawtry, West Riding, South Yorks [E of Sheffield]
I’ll post these separately.
10. LONGWORTH CLUES (See 1 of 2. c1880-1916.)
Searching at worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi gave
10.1 Archibald LONGWORTH b: BEF. 1795
m1 19 DEC 1812 Mary Magdalen DUPONT b: BEF. 1797
Joseph LONGWORTH (before 1791)
m1 28.11.1808 Elizabeth LEACRAFT b: BEF. 1793
All of South Carolina? Source: Elizabeth DuBois RUSSO elizabethrusso@home.com
10.2 Francis LONGWORTH Birth: 1597 Death: 01 JUN 1688
m1 07 JUL 1628 in Milton (next Gravesend), County Kent Marie TUCKER b: 1602
Source: Alice RAVEN <raviac@iname.com> quoting: Title: MASTJH2
Author: James H.P. MASTERS
Publication: GenServ
Note: Title: Robert FROST Biography
Author: Evidently quoted from Grolier's Encyclopedia
Publication: http://www.pro-net.co.uk/home/catalyst/RF/bio.html
10.3 Millicent "Martha" LONGWORTH
Sex: F
Birth: BEF. 1747 in Orange Co., Virginia
Death: AFT. 1804 in Spartanburg Co., South Carolina
m1 Luke THORNTON b: ABT. 1743 in Orange Co., Virginia
Source: Mikki MCBRIDE <Mikki95210@aol.com>
10.4 Searching in www.familysearch.org/ under J LONGWORTH gives none in UK.
10.5 APPLETON (6m SW of Oxford) 1861 CENSUS
ex Megan WILSON 561 Braybourne Close, Uxbridge Middlesex UB8 1U5:
Mary RATHBONE 67 Stonemason's widow all b Appleton El 25
Ann LONGWORTH 34 Pavers wife
11. THE TRAYES TREE - re 122 & 14 of 2. - AN EXCERPT
*From Donald MCFADZEAN: Pratts Rd, RD 3, Drury, Auckland 1750; tel 09 294 8206
donmc@ihug.co.nz BOUNCED. Pamela GILBERT has provided KT with material.
0 0-James TRAYES
KT has sent me this wonderful 1896 photo of the Devonport Bowling Club members.
- James is 2nd on L.
James owned several properties including these two grandiose 2 storeyed villas
on Devonport's waterfront. This photo of them was found by on www.barfoot.co.nz
by entering ref. number 241595: an apartment for sale in James TRAYES' home,
now Elizabeth Apartments, was going for $1.1 million in 2006.)
He was the original settler - WHAKARUA might have been the migrant ship they
came on- we've got to check that out and the mine claim where it seems that
James TRAYES struck it really rich in Thames's goldmines. Lived/worked at
Mt Tokatea, Driving Creek & Kuaotunu. He later moved to Devonport then Mangere
to plant a vineyard -KT 2002.
m 11.5.1861 St Mary's C of E Cathedral, Auckland sp-Keturah NAISH
1 1-William Stephen TRAYES (1862-1928) Methodist lay preacher at Kuaotunu?- KT.
Takapuna Library and Archives records confirmed that William TRAYES owned
Whakarua- 42 Cheltenham Rd.
m sp-Sarah Jane DUNSTAN (1863-1908 died in childbirth)
11 2-William "Billy" Hoskin TRAYES (12.10.1908-20.10.1990 Whangaparoa)
m 4.11.1933 Auckland sp-Ethel FARRAR (5.7.1909-14.3.1985 Auckland)
She is 122 of our HALL tree in 2. above.
12 2-Ernest Victor TRAYES (1890 Coromandel-c Sept. 1973 Devonport)
For more on his family, go to his familysearch ID L2G7-RCV.
m sp-Evelyn Maude HALL (28.7.1883 Auckland-1940 Devonport)
She has ID 34 in our HALL tree at 2. above.
2 1-Ida Mary TRAYES (1866)
m sp-Robert HENDERSON son of Adam and Jane.
Greatgrandparents of informant Donald McFADZEAN. He is also related on
the BRAMBLEY side: see 8 above.
3 1-Alfred Ernest TRAYES (1875) A descendant is
* Pamela GILBERT nee NICKS, 290 Hurstmere Rd, Takapuna, Auckland 9
Tel 09 489 8544 in 2000.
14. SOME WEB LINKS FOR YORKSHIRE AND ENGLAND - some will be outofdate
.1 genealogy .2 Sheffield .3 maps .4 Denton, greater Manchester
14.1 GENEALOGY
The GENUKI website for YORKSHIRE is
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html
The Yorks surnames list is at
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/yks.htm
The GENUKI website for LINCOLNSHIRE is
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/CHS/NorthChesFHS/Publications_list.htm
gives Publications of the North Cheshire Family History Society.
This includes for example "Denton in old photos" & "Stockport hatting".
www.hatworks.org.uk/
Stockport has its own Museum of Hatting.
I had a great visit there 2007.
The Worshipful Company of Feltmakers was founded 1604 in London.
Hatters were in Stockport 1650. 1700 hats were of wool felt & beaver fur.
c1790 Union of Hatters.
1800 of rabbit fur, etc. Wool & fur was prepared in the Bow Garret.
In 1860 US fur felt technology was introduced to Stockport from Denbury, Conn.
The Denbury Shakes refers to mercury poisoning - banned from felt in 1941.
The NW Sound Archives includes interviews with hatters.
Joseph HOWE hat worker in Denton; a current member of his family is Nick HOWE
at Hatworks.
A useful place to search is the LDS site http://www.familysearch.com
Try http://lists.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/findlist.pl
Searching under say HALL at Rootsweb list finder
will allow you to search the HALL archives, browse the HALL threaded
archives, or subscribe to HALL-L-request@rootsweb.com
14.2 SHEFFIELD
14.2.1 MAILING LIST - needs updating.
To subscribe or unsubscribe from RootsWeb's mailing list on the Sheffield area,
send e-mail with only the word SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) in the
subject and the body of the message to:
ENG-SHEFFIELD-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode).
- If you'd like to post a message so everyone on the mailing
list receives it, just send it to ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com.
- The archives are available at sheffield.archives@dial.pipex.com
- To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to
ENG-SHEFFIELD-admin@rootsweb.com.
freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~engsheffield/ is the website for this list.
For a list of all of Rootsweb's mailing lists see http://lists.rootsweb.com/
sheffield_lookups.txt - ask me for offers of look-ups for Sheffield.
14.2.2 OLD SHEFFIELD
A fascinating site for OLD Sheffield is
http://mtx.net.au/~exy/family_history_material.html
Try http://www.jimsdesk.demon.co.uk/history.htm
for a wonderful history of Sheffield!
http://www.dove.net.au/~exy/fh_material/sheffield_circa_1800.txt
gives A DESCRIPTION OF THE TOWN OF SHEFFIELD in the year 1832
at the time the Cholera was raging in Sheffield, with mentions of
Upperthorpe.
http://www.shu.ac.uk/services/lc/slidecol/pubart.shtml
has "public art" of Sheffield - including statues at Upperthorpe library.
14.2.3 THE SHEFFIELD LOCAL STUDIES LIBRARY
is on Surrey Street, Sheffield.
14.2.4 GENUKI lists
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WAR/birmingham/index.html
It lists there how to do a search of Index details for the 1891 Census for 6P.
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14.3 LANCASHIRE ex David MARTIN martin.d@paradise.net.nz 2004
Lancashire Surname List http://www.lancslist.com/
- eg a large number seeking HALL including an entry by me.
Places in Lancashire
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohnMTurner/Gazetteers/L
ancashire/Database.htm
On Line Parish Clerk (OPC) with map & parishes of Lancs & links to other OPCs
http://www.pioneerinfo.com/LAN-OPC/
A select gazetteer of local government areas, Greater Manchester County
http://www.gmcro.co.uk/guides/gazette/gazframe.htm - eg an entry for Denton.
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14.4 MAPS
14.3.1 One place for OLD UK MAPS (1846-1899, 6 inches to the mile - about 1 in
10,000) is http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
For example clicking there on Yorkshire and then Sheffield gave this map c1855.
To get Upperthorpe, I was advised to click on Yorkshire then Walkley, then
click on the S arrow at top R to get map to the S.
upperthorpe.gif At the top R you can read Philadelphia, and
below that the inverted L of the infirmary. W of that is Portland
Place on Upperthorpe Rd, and W again you can see "Upperthorpe" (and
"Upperthorpe cottages" above it to the R) running below the letters
LLA in NETHER HALLAM across the top. Harder to read below and L of
the "Upp" is "UPPERTHORPE ROAD" running SW to NE crossing the word
"Upperthorpe" at the "h". The road runs left into a T which is "Heavy
Gate Road" which runs NW thru the E and R in NETHER. Just above the T
is Steel Bank and just below Springvale and going S, Prospect Villa,
then Prospect House and then Crooke's Moor crossing the road S and
parallel to Upperthorpe Rd called "Crooke's Moor Road". To the R of
the Infirmary is St Phillip's on the N side of "Infirmary Road", not
far SW of the River. As one moves E and S from there the city gets
denser. If one clicks on the map to the R one finds the Workhouse just
SW of the river, which bends in a U. On the N side of the upper arm of
the U as it bends horizontal is the Midland Railway Station... Again
the map is c1855.
http://www.dave.milner.btinternet.co.uk/sheff1999/index.html
gives 3 colour 1999 PHOTOS OF UPPERTHORPE.
Remember that Henry HALL was living at Walkley when he married in 1877?
Selecting Yorkshire then Walkley at old-maps above gave this map c1855 showing Lower and Upper Walkley on lower left in Nether-Hallam Ward:
http://atschool.eduweb.co.uk/stmaryswalkley/local_map.html This map of WALKLEY, SHEFFIELD shows Walkley St as 2 blocks N of Upperthorpe St.
http://atschool.eduweb.co.uk/stmaryswalkley/local_study.html
Try here for more info on Walkley, Sheffield.
This site has the 1851 and 1871 Censuses for "Birkendale View".
This is a small area of 65 houses and 9 acres in NW Sheffield next to
Upperthorpe: see http://www.birkendale.org.uk/ Presumably in Walkley.
http://www.shu.ac.uk/services/lc/slidecol/pubart/coo149im.html
Here is a photo of Upperthorpe library (tel 0114 272 3160 in 2000,
address: Upperthorpe, Sheffield, South Yorkshire S6 3NA) built 1876.
14.4 DENTON, GREATER MANCHESTER
DENTON used to be one of the major centres in England for felt top hats. That
would fit in with William being a hatter and coming from Denton in Cheshire.-EP
14.5 Bristol & Gloucester
Gloucester Soc. of Genealogists http://www.sog.org.uk/prc/gloucester.html
Clicking on B gives many resources for Bristol
eg BRISTOL St Philip & St Jacob M 1800-37 [84]; M(I) 1800-37 [29];
M(I) Ext [Boyd]; Bristol area out of parish burials 1813-37 [115]
http://www.about-bristol.co.uk/chu-11.asp gives a history of this church
IGI batch numbers for Gloucester including Bristol are at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyGloucester_(A-M).htm
No batch numbers for St Philip & St Jacob, Bristol - so not indexed
15. NZ PASSENGER LISTS
2 websites for these (neither with Henry and Laura HALL) are
http://members.nbci.com/denisepeter/PassengersAuckland.htm
and
http://members.nbci.com/denisepeter/OurPassengerLists.htm
For Auckland one can contact
Karen Kalopulu, Family History Librarian, PO Box 4138, Auckland
tel (09)307-7773 kalopulK@akcity.govt.nz
The Index to Ships Mentioned in Maritime History Books
at http://faculty.washington.edu/petermcc/shipindex.html
contains c50,000 ships. This list is compiled by Peter MCRACKEN -see
http://ils.unc.edu/maritime/contact.shtml before contacting mccrp@ils.unc.edu.
Passenger ships arriving in Australasian Ports
at http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/shipping/mig-nz3.htm
lists the ships in Sir Henry Brett's two volumes of "White Wings" (1924, 1928).
The site gives for LEBU: arrived Auckland 27.9.1878 and 24.10.1879.
"Log of logs - a catalog of logs journals shipboard diaries letters ...
1788-1988 for Oz & NZ.." by Ian NICHOLSON 18 Wununga Cr, Yaroomba Qnsld 4573.
nzgenealogy.rootschat.net/cemetery.html failed. Cf www.rootschat.com to nz
NZ m Index: marvin.otago.ac.nz/marriages 1840-1956
16. ABBREVIATIONS
b born, bp baptised, c about, d died, kb kilobytes, m married, mb megabytes,
sp spouse
17. KINDER clues
re 22 of 1., Gertrude LONGWORTH m 1906 Fred KINDER b1876 Gee Cross, Cheshire.
17.1 FAMILY OF FRED KINDER mainly ex Steve SShawcross21@aol.com 2005-7
0 Hugh KINDER
1 Hugh KINDER bp 3.2.1766 Dukinfield Old Chapel (Presbytarian). Thought to be
1 Hugh KINDER m 7.8.1808 Stockport sp-Betty HOWARD
(Chn in ancestral file on familysearch but first is Thomas bc1814 so it
looks like Jonathan preceeded him.)
11 Jonathan KINDER b 23.1.1811 bp 21.9.1811 St. Michael and All Angels,
Ashton-under-Lyne
m 4 August 1832 Glossop, Derbyshire sp-Jane HOWTON
111 Margaret KINDER b 4 March 1837
112 Hugh KINDER b 1839 Godley, Cheshire
8 Dec 1839 Hugh son of Jonathan and Jane KINDER in (A)
(b probably registered Hyde 1861 ref: Hyd/3/18. Tameside Reg -CANT BE RIGHT!)
m 1861 Stockport in a civil ceremony ref STR/15/138 sp-Betty O. HAMPSON 1839
Gee Cross, Cheshire. b registered Hyde 1839 ref: Hyd/3/3.
1881 census Dwelling 99 Stockport Road, Hyde, Cheshire:
Name Relation Marital Status Age Birthplace Occupation ID here
Hugh KINDER Head M 42 1839 Godley, Cheshire Felt Hat Proofer 112
Betty KINDER Wife M 42 1839 Gee Cross, Cheshire Home Work
Joseph KINDER Son U 18 1863 Gee Cross, Cheshire Felt Hat Finisher 1121
Frank KINDER Son U 16 1865 Gee Cross, Cheshire Felt Hat Proofer 1122
Alfred KINDER Son U 15 1866 Gee Cross, Cheshire Errand Boy 1123
Annie KINDER Dau U 12 1869 Gee Cross, Cheshire Scholar 1124
Fred KINDER Son U 5 1876 Gee Cross, Cheshire Scholar 1125
1901 Fred was living with his wife-to-be's family: see under 4 above. ID
1901 census Name Age WhereBorn AdministrativeCounty CivilParish Occupation
Hugh KINDER 62 Cheshire Godley Hyde House Furnisher 112
Betty KINDER 62 Cheshire Werneth Hyde
Joseph KINDER 39 Cheshire Hyde Chester Hyde Labourer In Hat Works 1121
Frank KINDER 36 Cheshire Gee Cross Chester Godley MachinePlanerFittingShop1122
Alfred KINDER 35 Cheshire Gee Cross Hyde Billiard Room Attendint1123
1121 Joseph KINDER 1863 Gee Cross, Cheshire - 1881,1901 with parents
Joseph registered Hyde 1862 ref: hyd/34/10
1122 Frank KINDER 1865 Gee Cross, Cheshire - 1881,1901 with parents
Frank registered Hyde 1864 ref: hyd/36/82
1123 Alfred KINDER 1866 Gee Cross, Cheshire - 1881,1901 with parents
Alfred registered Hyde 1866 ref: hyd/39/7
1124 Annie KINDER 1869 Gee Cross, Cheshire - 1881,1901 with parents
Ann registered Hyde 1868 ref: hyd/42/84
1125 Fred KINDER 1876 Gee Cross, Cheshire - 1881 Scholar with parents
Fred registered Hyde 1875 ref: hyd/54/34
At www.carlscam.com click on memorials in line 2 below header on LHS
then sroll down to Hyde Town Hall. Clicking there gives "Pte Fred KINDER"
under Panel 4, August 1917 to August 1918.
m 14.4.1906 Walthamstow Parish Church, Essex sp-Gertrude LONGWORTH b c July
1880 Denton, Lancashire. # SHE IS 42 at 2. above.
1901 Fred was living with his wife-to-be & her family: see under 4 at 2.
NB Fred might be the 2nd of these 2 from the Commonwealth War Graves Commission
at http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx
No. Surname Rank Service Date Of Death Age Regiment Nationality Grave/Memorial
Ref. Cemetery/Memorial Name
1. KINDER, F Lance Corporal C/7328 10/09/1916 - King's Royal Rifle Corps UK
Sp. Mem. 12. Flatiron Copse Cemetery, Mametz
2. KINDER, FRED Private 40402 01/10/1917 Belgium - Manchester Regiment UK
20th btn, Panel 120 to 124 and 162 to 162A and 163A. Tyne Cot Memorial
- commemorative entries at St. John's, Godley and Hyde Town Hall -Steve.
(Not listed is the 3rd there as he has the wrong parents.)
The Manchester regt is one of the likely regiments he would be assigned to.
Try the online war memorials. If he was living in Walthamstow in 1914 he'd be
on the War memorial there (which I think is in St. Mary's) and not at Hyde.
This gave no names but Walthamstow Town Hall,Forest Rd,Walthamstow,
Greater London E17 4JF:WW1: Roll of Honour/Walthamstow/The Great War/1914-1918
Eight Volumes of Book of Remembrance kept within polished oak case.
Steve suggests the Hyde War Memorial at
http://www.tamesidehistoryforum.org.uk/hydewarmemorial.htm
............................................................ More if you want it!
For HALL CLUES AND OTHER HALL SEARCHERS, see
https://open.substack.com/pub/kitwithers/p/some-hall-clues-for-cheshire-lancashire
formerly at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kitwithers/hallclues.html
